2/5 NL

V1 - (~350) Younger guy. Fairly solid. Haven't seen him get too far out of line
V2 - (~600) Older guy who started the night stuck due a combination of bad beats and bad play. (Lost A8 vs J8 when both flopped trips and he lost to rivered boat, lost with a PP to quads on 444 board, etc) But also is losing because he does not like to fold when he has a piece of the flop

Hero - (~650) Started out session a bit unlucky and dwindled down to $150 as a result was playing very tight opening range. Then started catching cards and using my tight image to get some chips without showdown. Now that I am deeper I have opened up my range a bit.

Pre-flop. UTG limps. Hero limps UTG + 1 with 54. Limps around so 7 to the flop.

Flop ($35) 876 Checks to hero who bets $35. V2 calls from button. V1 raises from BB to $95. Hero?

I think it is very unlikely that we not way ahead at this point. Our hand is still vulnerable to bigger straight draws, and bigger flush draws. We still have equity against bigger made straights with our club redraw. Villian 1 is likely to go away, I put Villian 2 on overpairs, 2 pairs, rarely straight draws (pocket 9's), and bigger flush draws. I am comfortable shipping it here.

call and stack safe turns or 4 bet and commit. If he has a combo draw you are crushing him, you crush a set. The only thing you worry about is a better straight. With no FD this hand plays way different, but no way you can ever fold and I think 4 betting this flop is the right play. He's doing it with better sometimes and worse more often. Get the money in and if you are behind you still have fine equity.

Why limp UTG+1? I dislike

Call (you have a straight flush draw).

I put the villain on two pair, a set or an open ender with a pair (which you have blockers to), flush draw, pair and flush draw. Over pair might be possible since he was utg and might have been limping to pull a limp/raise.

Basically you are crushinggggg his range right now. You have two options:

A-raise all in
B-flat and stack any non board pairing card (other than the 6:clubs: OBV).
If its a 9 or any club other than the 6:clubs: you may have to throw up but imo id watch his body language like a hawk as the turn falls to see if you get any stack-saving information.

I shove here. Another club will kill your action against sets/2pair. You have re-draws against the better straights, and you should fold out the better club draws.

This.

Fold pre

i could see raising very small to get action from dominated hands like pair+straight draws...anything that will call a shove will still shove over your raise. v2 doesnt like folding but if we make him decide for his whole stack he is much much much more likely to.

if we shove v2 is folding like 100%

I actually think V1's range is stronger given that he check-raised with 2 villains in the pot. I think he may have either a better made straight (since this is a limped pot he can have anything) or some monster draw like clubs with the 9.

V2 is most likely drawing. Club draws are probably more likely than straight draws. If he has a club draw then if he hits it we are beat.

I may actually be slightly behind V1s range


Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

45,540 games 0.001 secs 45,540,000 games/sec

Board: 8c 7c 6h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 47.459% 45.88% 01.58% 20893 720.00 { 5c4c }
Hand 1: 52.541% 50.96% 01.58% 23207 720.00 { 88-66, AcKc, AcQc, AcJc, AcTc, Ac9c, KcQc, QcTc, Qc9c, JcTc, T9s, 95s, T9o, 95o }

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

45,540 games 0.001 secs 45,540,000 games/sec

Board: 8c 7c 6h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 47.459% 45.88% 01.58% 20893 720.00 { 5c4c }
Hand 1: 52.541% 50.96% 01.58% 23207 720.00 { 88-66, AcKc, AcQc, AcJc, AcTc, Ac9c, KcQc, QcTc, Qc9c, JcTc, T9s, 95s, T9o, 95o }[/QUOTE]

I would suggest you have to add all 2 pair combos as well as 99, and quite likely big overpairs.

/thread

This.

As played:

*grunch*

I hate the limp pre. Pretty little hand, but fold pre all day every day.


Our best option is to shove. We are behind to only two hands, which we have great equity against due to our club redraw. If you are against an over pair, sets, 2 pair or the pair + straight draw combos, a club will kill the action (as will a straight card against the sets/2 pair hands). I also want to get those bigger flush draws out of the hand.
Shove/run g00t.