Hero just arrived at the table as the BB. This is the 2nd hand he has seen. Does not have a read on anyone and have not seen any of these players at this poker room before. All hero knows is there's lots of money on the table, especially the guy 2 seats to his right sitting on 650BB's.

Hero is mid 20s white male playing in his work uniform. Reg at the card room but strangely enough has never played a single hand with anyone at the table. There is a poker club that plays at this card room on tuesday nights, 4 of the people at the table are involved in that but I don't know if that makes them "good" especially because they always play tournaments.

MP1 Opens up the action with a $10 raise and there is a total of 3 more callers, 650bb included, and the hero calls with A10. One more caller and we have a total of 6 people to see this flop.
Hero is sitting on $150 after the flop and everyone in this hand has me covered.

($61 in the pot)
Flop Comes KQ7with and hero is first to act.
Hero.......

Shove

I don't see a shove here? 3x the pot? I don't see what's calling me that I want to be up against.

Am I missing something? All I see is a gutshot to the nut straight with an overcard that I would not be at all comfortable with if it hits. Check and call if you're getting the right odds to chase, otherwise fold...

I'm assuming your AT is suited and two of the cards on the flop are your suit? If MP1 opened and you are in the BB how did you not close the action? Anyways, 6 ways to the flop, with a gutshot and a nut flush draw I'm just looking to bloat the pot as much as possible. I'm checking. If MP1 bets I'm shoving all-in, hopefully trapping a bunch of crap in the middle. If it checks around to my right and there's a bet, I may just call hoping to encourage more calls.

Given the number of players in the hand, that board, and your stack size, I don't think you have much fold equity. Focus on building a pot.

my apologies, suits are now in OP... also UTG+1 limped. thanks

easy check/ship given stack sizes. if mp1 bets you'll probably get some dead money in the pot by the time it comes back to you

check raise all in. Someone's going to bet to protect their strong Ks or two pair hands, might get some dead money in the pot from people calling with weak kings. You've got close to 50% equity against 2 pair hands or sets that call the all in. If not you pick up a nice pot.

Exactly

I think I'm check raising all in here vs a shove.

I think if we shove, we're only getting action off sets or two pair, whereas if we check, there's a good chance people are putting $$ in the pot with 1p holdings

Even with a 1/2 or 2/3 PSB raise and potentially a call, we still have a deep enough stack to get a ton of fold equity with a shove.

Oh, okay. In that case, I agree with the check/shove line. Even if you run into a range of 2 pair/sets you have around 40% equity, which should be fine given the amount of dead money in the pot.

*grunch*

I see two options: (1) Lead the flop for $40, and put the rest of your money in either as a 3b or leading any turn; or (2) check the flop and play to c/r AI either on the flop or on the turn.

My thinking is that with so many players to the flop, and with the SPR of under 3:1, one will set oneself up for a trivial push with either of these lines. Against so many players, I don't see either leading or c/r AI as having much FE. I think we expect to be playing odds-on poker with 12 outs to the nuts and maybe an our or two purchased when another A folds to the action.

check

So lets say hero decides to donk $10 in to the pot hoping for a raise, but instead gets 3 callers. Now the turn comes and it brings the J. Now what does hero do?

keep betting now around 30-40 seems nice so that people think they might have some fold equity.

Betting 10 dollars on the flop is kind of weird play though but i guess I don't hate it if you shove it over the top when raised.

Ok, thats two stealth pahwm threads tonight.

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