I've been lurking for QUITE some time now, never posted, read sporadically..mostly because the inordinate information on this forum can be overwhelming..but now, I've come out of my closet and starting a thread, now!!!

Recent hand played, live 2/5. I had a friend stake me $400, so I have to explain to him though I lost, it was the right move!! (He is pissed, thinks I suck, and I'm having to prove to him of my worthiness. FULL CLOSURE: he doesn't play poker that much)

Down to $250. Played for 4 hours already, absolutely no playable hands. Table was pretty aggressive, always a $20 preflop raise somewhere. Me, UTG +2, QQ. (FINALLY A PAIR) Raise $20. Button, who has been moderately active, sitting with $500, re-raises me $65. Action folds to me. I'm thinking, ****, I think I might be behind given my super tight image, haven't played a hand in an hour and small stack..but I can't fold this, can I??

Anyone can explain to me, with some math and GTO, the breakdown of the following decisions. (I put him on 88+, A10+)
1) Fold
2) Call the raise
3) Reraise all in.

Not sure if this post belongs in this section...

Sounds to me like you were playing with scared money. I can't imagine you sat there for 4 hours without ANY playable hands before this, and you probably missed some good spots to get involved. But in any case if the range you suggest is accurate then folding is definitely not an option. You have 50bb. You should plan on getting it all in. Then go back when you have enough money to play properly.

Moved from Poker Theory. I think this fits better here - the decision is much more of a practical than theoretical one and is pretty specific to the circumstances (live, fairly low limit game)

First, a few practical piece of advice:
* don't get staked by someone who's going to have a problem with how you play
* don't play in a game this big where you need to ask a question as basic as this one (no offense)

I think folding is ridiculous without a huge read.

Any raise less than all in is too small, so if you're going to raise it needs to be all in. Whats your AI equity against his range? Therefore what's your EV if he calls with his whole range? Use pokerstove or propokertools to get your equity and go from there. I can expand if you have trouble with this.

Calling is an option but only if you have the balls to put it in on pretty much any non-A-high flop. But if your range is at all accurate then shoving is enormously +ev if he calls with his whole range.

Not sure what the biggest mistake ITT was, having a stake where the staker doesn't understand staking, having a stake where the player doesn't understand staking, or having a stake where the player is probably negative expectation.

The hand itself would be pretty far down the list.

Easy all in moment. Your friend is an idiot if he thinks otherwise.

Don't make staking deals with people who don't understand them. It isn't worth risking a friendship. It's just money.

lullllllllllllz this can't be real.

Seems like you and your buddy would have been better off flushing your money down the ****ter.

Oh and don't fold if that is your range. Probably just cram.




smh

Welcome to LLSNL!

1) Vs. that range folding is obviously out.
2) An overcard to QQ will flop ~43% of the time.
3) Shove, he'll put you on AK and call. If he has KK+, bad luck but I'm being felted for 50 bbs.
4) The staking, playing $2/$5 NLHE, etc. does not compute, thus no comment.

Mubsy much?

Folding is not an option vs that range.

Don't get staked from people who don't understand the game.

I'm jamming this all day. Especially because you're short. This is live-low-stakes, people are rarely paying attention, nobody really cares you folded for 4 hours. It seems you're playing scared money which isn't +EV.

If you really think that is his 3! range than this is a raise, ainec. And the only reason you're ever calling is to jam the flop. But this allows him to get away from hands he would have called you with preflop but not now, ie when the flop comes KJ9 and he has 88,1010,AQ,A10 in his range.

I you're only getting $400 you should be playing 1/2 and even that's super light. Others have touched on the fact that you shouldnt accept a stake from someone who will be angry at you if you lose.

Now that we've got that out of the way...

For 50bb this is a no brainier shove.

So you want us to prove to your friend that you made the right play (by going all in I assume) even though you know that it was the right play... Get poker stove, show him the equity vs the range you made up. That's all we're going to do. If stove doesn't convince him nothing will.

Oh eff, I'll do it for you

QQ 63.7%

88+, ATo+, ATs+ 36.3%

Get it in and print money.

Sorry you got a "bad beat."