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03-28-2017 , 03:49 PM
1-2 on a Wednesday afternoon at Jack Cincinnati.

Reads and potential reads on me:

Villain: Middle-aged white dude covered head to toe in Ohio State gear. Other side of table so haven't talked much but seems to know what's going on. Haven't seem him get out of line at all other than betting 30 pre flop when there was a bunch of limpers.

Hero: Nearly tripled up a few orbits ago with a set on a draw-y board and I faded the outs without needing to fill up. Would probably be labled a LAG if people paid attention, which most don't at this game.

O2tH: Hero has about 500 on the button and the villian in the big blind covers (7-handed).

It's limped to us w/ 44 and we limp as do the blinds.

POT: ~11

FLOP: A82

Checks to us and we check as well

TURN: 4

Checks to villain who bets 15 and folds to us. I make it 45, and villain calls. My thought here is use my position to A) take the lead on the river, & B) build a pot because if I fill up maybe I get all his money.

POT: ~$95

RIVER: T

Villain fires $300 and hero tanks.

About 30-60 seconds into the tank villain says, "Can you beat a flush"? I say "no"? He says, Then what are you doing? Let's go. Then he asks, "Can you beat two pair" and I say, "I can beat some two pairs"

Is this a delayed bluff on his part off my turn raise or is he giving me credit for a strong hand and hope I pay off his nuts?

Hero?!!
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03-28-2017 , 04:15 PM
V just 3x'd pot on a flush board in a limped pot after you raised turn. V is right, if you don't have a flush, throw your cards in the muck because you're wasting time and V has too many flush combos for you to call. V betting $300 into $95 on river of a limped pot after calling your turn raise has the nuts until proven otherwise.
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03-28-2017 , 06:06 PM
Doesn't make much sense to me to raise turn specifically because he might already have a flush. I would call since a lot of worse hands are going to fold to the monotone board. This hand doesn't have that much potential so I wouldn't bother protecting it against a 4th heart. You can exploit this river play by calling with the nuts, if you call with a set here you are the one being exploited. Making their nuts look like a bluff is the first chapter in the OMC playbook.
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03-28-2017 , 06:24 PM
I think you have to fold until you know more about this guy. His hand is the nuts too often here.
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03-28-2017 , 08:32 PM
He didn't build a pot on earlier streets so now he is trying to compensate for being a bad player.

Overbets are the vast majority of the time vs most players very strong.

You have a bluff catching hand. Folding isn't the biggest deal in the world.
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03-28-2017 , 09:05 PM
Instafold, he can't know you don't have a flush here, it sort of looks like you do. He has the nuts here like 99% of the time.
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03-28-2017 , 09:36 PM
Thank him for betting so much and fold.
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