Yes I too now thought back to that initial raise. Just seemed weird and smelled like someone sizing based on hand strength
Weird, yes. That it should tip us off he has Aces, well I think we are starting to be results-oriented now. I've found that this unusual larger sizing is more indicative of TT - QQ with heavy weight toward JJ. So much of the time when I notice a really strange large sizing pre-flop, it's jacks.
Weird, yes. That it should tip us off he has Aces, well I think we are starting to be results-oriented now. I've found that this unusual larger sizing is more indicative of TT - QQ with heavy weight toward JJ. So much of the time when I notice a really strange large sizing pre-flop, it's jacks.
This. Most players won't raise 7x with AA because they don't want to "lose value" with them. They do raise JJ 7x because they are afraid of getting outflopped by all the overcards.
Ok and do they also 4! to $400 with them leaving $250 behind?
It’s not results oriented to look at the action and say “Gee that really did look like AA.”
This isn’t like a bunch of limps and then SB goes $100 and you think he’s got JJ/TT and you 3! KK from the BB and then he 4!’s, you snap and he shows you AA.
RFI 7x in EP and then 4! at his sizing is as strong as it gets.
Ok and do they also 4! to $400 with them leaving $250 behind?
It’s not results oriented to look at the action and say “Gee that really did look like AA.”
This isn’t like a bunch of limps and then SB goes $100 and you think he’s got JJ/TT and you 3! KK from the BB and then he 4!’s, you snap and he shows you AA.
RFI 7x in EP and then 4! at his sizing is as strong as it gets.
We weren't talking about the 4!, just the 7x open.
It’s not results oriented to look at the action and say “Gee that really did look like AA.”
It's not like we couldn't find the fold. The fold has been apprehended. The fold is in cuffs in the back of a squad car. I'm not sure how it was decided upon that a hundred or a hundred and fifty blinds is the accepted threshold for throwing everything else out the window and just duh duh duh playing our own two pretty cards but now the fold is at large again and it has our money.
I think people are being results oriented regarding the "7x open".
He was a total unknown, so unless you have a bet sizing tell on someone, you can't say just because he opened 7x he has aces (not that it would have mattered if we did have that tell with Kings and 120BB's anyway).
Some people will raise higher because they're in early position, and some people will raise higher bc they have a hand like TT or JJ and don't want a lot of callers. Or maybe they always open 7x. The point is we don't know, so we can't assume he has aces and fold pre.
For this hand yes. For a general thought about 7x opens no.
Yes. Lots of people are giving super helpful general thoughts about AA KK spots that have next to no application when the EP 7x raiser, faced with a 3! that sure looks like it wants action at only ~3x over a caller, proceeds to 4! less than all in. There are other threads to talk about other things.
Yes. Lots of people are giving super helpful general thoughts about AA KK spots that have next to no application when the EP 7x raiser, faced with a 3! that sure looks like it wants action at only ~3x over a caller, proceeds to 4! less than all in. There are other threads to talk about other things.
