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Originally Posted by Donk Quixote
I think the general guideline is:
1. Don't squeeze with hands that you can profitably call with.
2. Pick from the best hands that you normally would fold
3. Don't squeeze with hands that are dominated by the hands your opponents will call with.
So say in a given spot you think you can call with 87s or 86s, but 85s is too loose, that's a hand you can elect to squeeze with.
The reason KTo is bad is because if you flop top pair you're already representing a stronger hand on that board based on PF action, so you're essentially in a spot where you're bluffing with top pair.
I can't profitably call with this hand, I would normally fold it. I'm nearly never playing the cards if this gets to flop. This is purely playing the player. I'm not worried about stacking off with a dominated one pair hand because I won't.
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Originally Posted by beauvanlaanen
I see a lot of people saying "super standard" squeeze spot. If any of the Vs are competent shouldn't they know this? And wouldn't that make it a bad spot to squeeze? Or does this just get through often enough where we have to do it...?
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Originally Posted by Koss
As long as we don't abuse squeeze opportunities most villains will let us "get away with one" They aren't likely to put a significant chunk of their stack in with a speculative hand, or re-bluff their stack, vs an unknown. As you build a wild image you have to scale it back, but I will pounce on these opportunities if I've been quiet lately.
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Originally Posted by Axel Foley
Not trying to hijack too much here, but one other question about this spot.
When V1 flats and the others fold, what sort of range do you give him? Do we assume he 4b KK+ and folds small pairs, Axs, and SCs, SGs, etc, leaving a range weighted to TT-QQ, AK? Do we think he'll fold to a healthy sized c-bet on ragged flops a high % of the time? Do we think he ever floats OTF w AK just to see whether or not we check the turn?
I'll fire one on the flop, I think this guy will fold 1010-QQ and doubt he will float with AK. If he does, he wins. But I don't think he does often enough.
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Originally Posted by iraisetoomuch
Grunch:
I'd default to folding here. OOP sucks. Sure their ranges are pretty weak, lots of small pocket pairs, and suited connectors, but the OR can make our life difficult if he flats IP and anyone else comes along.
If we were suited I think some % of the time I would 3bet here but I think our hand is just too weak and dominated too often to squeeze here.
Also, if we had the same action to us on the button, I would be more inclined to squeeze here having position post can be really helpful.
The button would be great, but sometimes we just get these opportunities OOP and they are still +EV. I'm not playing the cards here. I like the K because it blocks some combos of his big hands.
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Originally Posted by daniel9861
Yeah suited aces would be the best hands. Small pocket pairs are pretty good too but in this spot it's probably more profitable just to call and set mine. Spots where small pocket pairs can be a good 3bet/5bet are spots where it isn't profitable to set mine like sb or bb vs. a wide btn open and there is a wide 3bet/4bet dynamic established already.
I honestly don't think i'd ever 3!5! with small pockets OOP multiway. And I'd prefer to just play postflop poker in a smaller pot on a button vs. blind situation heads up or 3 way normally if i'm in the blind. I've only been on a table once in the last few months where there was a solid ultraLAG whose 4! range would be wide enough to 5! bluff and have her fold. I would have felt like such a baller if I could have pulled it off but the situation never arose.
Last edited by SunChips; 05-14-2014 at 01:22 PM.