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Do we raise the river vs a nit? Do we raise the river vs a nit?

03-11-2014 , 06:58 PM
1/2 NL - Horseshoe Hammond

Villain: ($200) Reg. Plays really passively, especially in later streets, but will limp call pretty light preflop.

Preflop: Villain limps UTG, Hero raises to $12 in MP with QT, SB calls, BB calls, V calls.

Flop: ($43) Q94 SB checks, BB checks, V checks, Hero bets $25, V calls.

Turn: ($92) 3 V checks, Hero checks.

River: ($92) T V bets $30, Hero raises to $65

Last edited by Pay-Off-Wizard; 03-11-2014 at 07:16 PM.
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03-11-2014 , 07:00 PM
Yes absolutely. Happily get it in as well if he 3bets river. Sorry (if) you lost.

Very unlikely he is folding any 10 or over pair here.
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03-11-2014 , 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Brow2821
Yes absolutely. Happily get it in as well if he 3bets river. Sorry (if) you lost.

Very unlikely he is folding any 10 or over pair here.
Sorry, I made a typo in the hand history, it's corrected.
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03-11-2014 , 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Brow2821
Happily get it in as well if he 3bets river.
I don't think I'd be happy if V 3bet the river.

He is never 3betting worse hands...

I'd fold PF. Our hand is pretty junky, and the nit UTG has a much stronger range than our hand.
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03-11-2014 , 09:59 PM
Never thought i'd say this but fold preflop. As played please raise

#KillTheNits
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03-11-2014 , 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DaYu
I don't think I'd be happy if V 3bet the river.

He is never 3betting worse hands...

I'd fold PF. Our hand is pretty junky, and the nit UTG has a much stronger range than our hand.
For the record the original post had hero holding a full house.
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03-11-2014 , 11:02 PM
Your title and villain description don't match (ie. your description doesn't make him sound like a nit).

I'd fold pre.
As played, raise/fold river.
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03-12-2014 , 01:11 AM
R/f river
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03-12-2014 , 01:23 AM
As mentioned, I would be perfectly happy raise/folding this river.
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03-12-2014 , 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Pay-Off-Wizard
1/2 NL - Horseshoe Hammond

Villain: ($200) Reg. Plays really passively, especially in later streets, but will limp call pretty light preflop.

Preflop: Villain limps UTG, Hero raises to $12 in MP with QT, SB calls, BB calls, V calls.

Flop: ($43) Q94 SB checks, BB checks, V checks, Hero bets $25, V calls.

Turn: ($92) 3 V checks, Hero checks.

River: ($92) T V bets $30, Hero raises to $65
Man - this whole hand has me confused.
You call V a "nit" but you say, "he will call pretty light preflop."
Nits fold to raises without monster hands. Esp UTG.

Next: You bet 12 - get called by 3 other players.
The pot should be $48 not $43. Or are you taking out the rake?
Then, you bet $25, V calls... that's $50 more... but only $49 more makes it to the pot. Is that for promotions?
Is it really necessary to account for every penny?

Anyway - back to the hand.
If this guy's a nit. He'll show up with AQ or KQ here - so raising the river is fine. But if this guy shows up with KJ, you can be sure he's not a nit - and you shouldn't reraise him on the river without the nuts.

BTW - why are you checking the turn?
What range of hands do you think UTG is holding?
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03-12-2014 , 04:07 AM
Fold pre. It's not even sooted :-P

As played, raise fold river is appropriate.
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03-12-2014 , 10:32 AM
Fold preflop. No reason to get involved with that garbage in MP.

As played, I might bet a little more on the flop.

I'm torn on whether to bet the turn.

I'd like a bigger raise on the river; more like 100.
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03-12-2014 , 11:57 AM
river sizing is whack brah
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03-12-2014 , 01:32 PM
I'd be alright with preflop if we had QTs.... yeah I know suited only adds 2% points preflop but its amazing how often being suited can make a significant difference post flop in terms of playability. You hit a backdoor flush post flop and you can almost always play for stacks with confidence you are ahead... alas I digress

as played, raise more on the river instead of min raising. Make it $95-ish...

but against a nit, we can always raise/fold river in these spots. AQ and KQ should be majority of his range.

I agree with poster above, if he shows up with KJ he is not a nit!!!! Hell, I might even argue that if he shows up with KQ he's not really too nitty but rather just typical passive semi-tight rec fish...
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