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Did I play AA wrong and how could I avoid it in the future Did I play AA wrong and how could I avoid it in the future

04-26-2011 , 03:23 PM
This is at a raked 1/2 NL home game. Villian is a younger white kid who I pegged as somewhat of a loose caller (not a complete station). I had been playing pretty tight and just being patient.

I picked up AA on the button, 2 players plus the villain limped in for $2. I bumped it to $15. Only the villain calls. My stack started off at $120 and his started at about $130.

Flop ($36) came:

2, 2, J (rainbow).
villain checks, hero bets $30 (leaving my stack at $75)
villain check raises to $75, hero goes all in.

Villain shows 9, 2 (spades) and wins my full stack.

When I went all in, I didn't think he could have called my pre flop 7 BB raise with a deuce in his hand. I had waited long for a decent hand and invested 1/3 of my stack so I couldn't let this go with the check raise as I thought he could have done that with a Jack or another pair.
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04-26-2011 , 03:27 PM
you played AA fine.

/thread.
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04-26-2011 , 03:30 PM
You cannot avoid this in the future. Your logic regarding villain not having a 2 is good. You should stack off because you are likely ahead. Your logic regarding giving up after a checkraise is only good given the fact that your opponent has plenty of hands in his range that you beat. In this case, that appears to be the case.

Only way you can ever fold here is vs a villain who never ever stacks off withbjust 1 pair on this board. This ain't that guy.
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04-26-2011 , 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by elindio
This is at a raked 1/2 NL home game. Villian is a younger white kid who I pegged as somewhat of a loose caller (not a complete station). I had been playing pretty tight and just being patient.

I picked up AA on the button, 2 players plus the villain limped in for $2. I bumped it to $15. Only the villain calls. My stack started off at $120 and his started at about $130.

Flop ($36) came:

2, 2, J (rainbow).
villain checks, hero bets $30 (leaving my stack at $75)
villain check raises to $75, hero goes all in.

Villain shows 9, 2 (spades) and wins my full stack.

When I went all in, I didn't think he could have called my pre flop 7 BB raise with a deuce in his hand. I had waited long for a decent hand and invested 1/3 of my stack so I couldn't let this go with the check raise as I thought he could have done that with a Jack or another pair.
When a player shows you that he played 9-2 (sooooooooooted) OOP for 1/8 of effective stacks, rest assured that there will be many times that he shows up with a hand you beat on a board like this.
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04-26-2011 , 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
OP, your goal is not to figure out EXACTLY what villain has every single hand.
Your goal is to put him on a range and get your money in when you have him beat 7 or 8 times out of ten.
If he shows up with 9 2 and wins 1 or 2 out of ten times, this is what you want.

Don't fold here.
+1, especially because these villians just love winning with this type of hand. This is just a little positive reinforcement for them to continue playing thses types of hands.
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04-26-2011 , 05:19 PM
1. Reload
2. Make sure you cover villain
3. ?????
4. Profit
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04-27-2011 , 08:52 AM
he can't have a two EVER - but sometimes every dog has his day, you just have to pay him off, most of the time he does the same with aj/kj and then you have him totally dead. ez game
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04-27-2011 , 09:00 AM
Reload and aggressively isolate Villain. You'll have your money back in no time. Shocking play by him. Don't berate his play or he'll just start playing better. Just raise anytime he limps and cbet on any flop. He'll be folding here most of the time.
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04-27-2011 , 09:56 AM
i will never fold ever in this spot given stack sizes even against the biggest nit after we cb the flop. Since each of you started with around 65bb's, you can't really do much wrong w/AA after you cb flop on most board textures.
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04-27-2011 , 10:05 AM
Don't blame yourself because V is a ****** who calls a 7.5BB raise pre with 9 2.
You can't avoid this stuff in the future. Thats the game. As you said, he is a loose caller, young, aggressive, willing to gamble. He c/r here a lot of the time with air, PP or a J. His c/r does not necessarily mean he has a 2 here, and the chance he even has a 2 is quite low considering the preflop raise. Even if he has a 2 you are still roughly 10% to win the hand. There are so many hands you beat with AA that he c/r's with that you have no choice to go with your hand once you bet the flop.
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04-27-2011 , 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by jsaliba

Only way you can ever fold here is vs a villain who never ever stacks off withbjust 1 pair on this board. This ain't that guy.

A read on what range the stationy villain will get aggro with postflop would be nice, but per the explanation this is just a cooler.
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04-27-2011 , 10:13 AM
cooler, next hand plz

invite villain to your home game
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04-27-2011 , 10:19 AM
Just a cooler. I would re-load and stay at the table with this guy, sounds like he is a total station. He will play any two suited probably, doesn't matter. I would think you could find an easy spot to get it all back against him. I would stack off every time on this flop and if he has the 2, well than good for him, most the time he won't though, he plays KJ, AJ, and maybe even QJ and J10 that way, basically any decent Jack he does the same.
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