5/5NL 1k eff


Vil is a tight reg who has shown ability to XR with draws.


I open AK utg to 20
Vil calls mp and bb calls
Flop AJ8 (65)
I bet 30, vil xr to 120, bb folds, HERO?


Still adapting to playing deep in this situation and looking for advice when it is not as simple as GII on flop which I would do at <100BB and be flipping with sets/2p.


If I 4b, I may fold out his bluffs/weak draws.
If I call and make the nuts, I give up the betting lead and he can check back brick turns and miss out on value.

Thanks for the help.

We’re just shy of 45% against sets and more against 2 pair and obviously draws.

3 bet to 350 and jam all turns.


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Jam all non... st draw turns... lol had to add.


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On what planet are you 45% vs a set here?

3-betting here hoping to gii vs two pair is awful. Please for the love of god do not 3-bet this.

Do not use the absolute nut bluff catcher as a bluff. This is a concept a lot of mediocre no-limit players don't understand when they see a hand like this and want to pile all the money in right away vs a raise.

30%... yeah math is jacked ... you still don’t want to 3bet here Deep?


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We’re a coin flip against two pair.


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I'd want to 3-bet JJ and 88 here and really not much else. AJ vs some people.

Call and see turn. I remember a hand just like this posted not long ago.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...ight=ranma4703

lol this hand put me on tilt

Lol.


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Obvious flat is obvious

Does it change anything if we hit 2 pair on the turn?


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Call turn. Probably not going to end up folding this hand under most circumstances vs a villain that has shown the ability to bluff.

I just call his raise (both around 850 behind)

Turn is a brick (305)
I check, Vil bets 400
Do I rip it in and risk getting it in bad?
Or call turn, xf unimproved?

I can come up w/ 4-5 flush draws a tight villain plays this way. But he's extremely weighted toward AJ/A8s/88, some chance JJ. I lean toward a fold, despite it being rather nitty. I don't think villain is bluffing two barrels this strongly w/ 54hh, AQ, etc, and we're just not getting the odds to draw here (maybe barely if we get villains stack when we hit our flush 100% of the time, or some similar outcome).

This is an easy call. There's not much merit to raising again.

I’d start with a check otf. Such a nice hand to x/c multiple streets and have NF in our range when we check, and people cant barrel us off heart runouts. Plus a lot of times people will just think you have AhXx here or KhKx when you start going into x/c mode and start spewing cuz obv “why would pfr ever check FD here?”

Ap, turn is a nasty call if he has shown propensity to bluff draws, but itms close, fold is okay if you dont like variance/marginal spots.

Against avg player im snap folding turn.

But i’d never be in this spot cuz this such a good hand to x/c with otf. You cant get raised and be put in tough spots, when you get raised you’re not super happy continuing. Also strengthens your checking range, people will start spazzing once you check, and if players know you can check with good hands it’ll be hard to play against you and they’re more likely to give you free turns/rivers.

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Call his raise. Also dont really worry about all the value you miss with different lines postflop, your number one issue is being out of position preflop. Of course we're raising AKs utg, but this is the price you pay; you cant always stack someone because you are already at an inherent disadvantage. It's like complaining you couldnt felt someone with quads or whatever, it's just not gonna happen unless you cooler them. Villain gets to x/f and x/x and whatever and thats his advantage for being in position. Just bet when you hit and hope he calls with worse.

yeah wtf is this, are people going around reposting old hands under smurf accounts to see if they get conflicting advice?

This! We have solid equity against everything and a hand that can withstand pressure on multiple streets, but piling money in with flop 3! is absolutely over playing our hand and we're going to be behind the vast majority of the time. Just call and see a turn.

If I get flamed then so be it, but honestly I would fold turn unless you have some legitimate reason to believe he's running a big bluff. V over bet the turn, you're getting less than 2/1, and you have 9 clean outs. Even if he has bottom two and your A/K are live, you're still not getting the right price to call.

No, chill out though. You haven't played many hands if you find it THAT crazy for 2 hands to be very similar. Also, the hands deviate on the turn if you look at my 2nd post.

You should be calling OTF. Basically 3 betting will kill your top pair value, thus turning your hand basically into a bare FD. If you call, and he checks back a brick OTT, you just check to him OTR and let him fire a bluff at you if the river bricks and call. As played turn is an easy fold.