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COWBOYS facing a donk bet on a paired board (-0) COWBOYS facing a donk bet on a paired board (-0)

10-13-2022 , 08:41 PM
Table just opened. Game is $2-$100 spread-limit, max you can bet is $100 over the previous bet.

Hero has $400 stack. V1 is an old white lady with a stack of $150. V2 is a middle aged Asian man with a stack of $600. (Buyins are unlimited here.)

THE HAND: Blinds $1-$2 8-handed. Two players limp. Hero raises to $14 with KcKs in the CO. V2 on the Button calls, as does the UTG Limper (V1). Everyone else folds.

FLOP: Td6c6s (Pot: $45)

UTG V1 donk bets $10. Hero raises to $50. (???) V2 on Button calls the $50. UTG V1 folds.

Turn: Td6c6s 2h (Pot: $145)

Action is on Hero.

1. What do we do?
2. How would you have played the Flop?
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10-13-2022 , 09:24 PM
Turn based on population read I’m potting it to $100 in your game Think you get called by worse a lot with your image
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10-13-2022 , 09:58 PM
Bet $100 on turn.
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10-13-2022 , 10:41 PM
Bet $100 on the turn and again on all rivers that aren't T or A.

Flop seems standard to me with such a tiny donk bet on the dry flop.
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10-13-2022 , 11:44 PM
I would check the turn. If there's a flush possible or trips and a middle aged Asian man is putting chips in the pot, I strongly consider the possibility that's he got a big hand. Cold-calling the flop raise is super strong. He's not even closing the action. In his mind, V1 might have trips. Hero's action is representing an overpair. Yet, he's still calling. Also, he bought in for $600? Sounds like a guy who wants to get paid when he hits his speculative hands.

After the cold call, I put V's range as AT, JJ, QQ, TT and whole bunch of 6x hands (64s, 65s, 76s, 86, 96s). We're WA/WB. I want to get to showdown and I don't want to put in $300 to do it with villain IP. I'm a nit though.
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10-13-2022 , 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by curdanol
I would check the turn. If there's a flush possible or trips and a middle aged Asian man is putting chips in the pot, I strongly consider the possibility that's he got a big hand. Cold-calling the flop raise is super strong. He's not even closing the action. In his mind, V1 might have trips. Hero's action is representing an overpair. Yet, he's still calling. Also, he bought in for $600? Sounds like a guy who wants to get paid when he hits his speculative hands.

After the cold call, I put V's range as AT, JJ, QQ, TT and whole bunch of 6x hands (64s, 65s, 76s, 86, 96s). We're WA/WB. I want to get to showdown and I don't want to put in $300 to do it with villain IP. I'm a nit though.
If middle aged asian man can make a flush out of a rainbow board he needs to be playing higher stakes

It s spread limit. There is no way Im not betting max with a hand this strong vs this demographic of player even though he has position and called our raise.
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10-14-2022 , 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by larry the legend
If middle aged asian man can make a flush out of a rainbow board he needs to be playing higher stakes

Obviously, the trips part applies to this hand and not the flush. This is one of the more reliable race tells that I've found. Asians (especially middle aged) love suited connectors, gappers, and suited cards in general more than others. Given no other reads on villain, I'll use it.

I think it's close between checking and betting; but what are you getting value from? QQ/JJ that he didn't 3-bet pre? AT? Maybe. Just seems like there's more 6x possible.
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10-14-2022 , 08:11 AM
77-99. JJ 910-A10. 39 combos

And scared of 67 &56. 66. 1010. 8 combos.
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10-14-2022 , 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by curdanol
I think it's close between checking and betting; but what are you getting value from? QQ/JJ that he didn't 3-bet pre? AT? Maybe. Just seems like there's more 6x possible.
You have to start counting combos. Let’s assume our villain loves suited connectors and gappers like you say. You listed “a whole bunch of 6x hands” that in fact are 10 (!) total combos. That means he has less 6x in his range than AT alone. No other pairs, no other Tx. Just AT.
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10-14-2022 , 04:03 PM
UPDATE:
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Turn: Td6c6s 2h (Pot: $145)
Hero decides to check, WA/WB, actually suspecting this V has trips way more than he has a T, but thinks JJ is a possibility.

Villain bets $75. Hero decides to call one time.

River: Td6c6s 2h 5h (Pot: let’s say $300)

Hero checks. Villain bets $100. Hero knows for a fact he’s beat, and in fact, careful readers will note that he already swore in advance he was only calling the Turn, since he knows a $100 River bet is a 6 every time, so:

Hero calls, Villain shows 6d5d for the full house.
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10-14-2022 , 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by davomalvolio
Hero decides to check, WA/WB, actually suspecting this V has trips way more than he has a T
That doesn't make much sense unless you think he calls 76s preflop but folds T9s.

I'm perfectly fine with assessing that 6x is a high possibility after he bets turn and river. That just doesn't look like Tx anymore.

But nobody is going to fold Tx on the flop so going to the turn, you need a soul read to come with 6x being more likely than Tx.
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10-14-2022 , 10:50 PM
My hackles are up after he calls the flop cold, I’m treading cautiously.

Without a great read, I check the turn and plan on calling down unless the board really runs out against us. But I’m definitely not barreling into him on turn or river.
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