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10-14-2023 , 02:01 AM

davomalvolio

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Late Friday night. Villain has $200, I cover. We have a very relevant Hand History—it happened literally the hand right before this!

I over-limp in LP with Td7d, about 5 ways. Flop Ad7c2d. V in UTG leads for $10, only I call. Turn Kx. He leads $20 I call. River Qd. He bets $30, I raise to $75, he calls and mucks.

THIS HAND: I over-limp again, with 9c7c, and again we go 5-ways.

Flop 8c5d4c ($10, 5-handed)

SB leads for $6, Villain in BB calls, a couple folds, and this time I raise my combo draw to $20. Both blinds call.

Turn: 8c5d4c 3c (pot: $60, 3-handed).

I turn a flush. They both check. I bet $40. SB folds, BB calls.

River: 8c5d4c 3c 5s (pot: $140)

BB checks.

Is this a mandatory value bet, or are you finding a check-back? I feel like it’s really bad to have the 7c here, right?

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10-14-2023 , 04:08 AM

Stupidbanana

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He shouldn't really have sets. Just checking his option pre and then a call-call OTF... He's got some 6c5x 6c4x 43 53 86 that sort of thing. Depends a bit on the V. Sounds like he's pretty sticky from HH. I could see bet/fold of 65 or just a x back.

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10-14-2023 , 08:35 AM

larry the legend

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I think its thin but a small bet like $40 again gets paid where you are ahead 50% of the time

Passive player who sounds like a station.

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10-14-2023 , 06:13 PM

ChaosInEquilibrium

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I would bet hoping to get looked up by an 8… $40-50 seems fine.

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10-15-2023 , 04:30 AM

Mlark

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Definitely a bet. A lot of times on a paired board in NL I like to split range. Like 60% pots with flushes, especially weaker ones and also some of the ones that have two high flush cards like AKs. Boats I like to overbet, also maybe my flushes that have a high club with a low club like A2s that unblocks other high flushes.

In spread limit we can't overbet this river. Maybe we just maxbet / fold this hand even though the raise will be pretty small.

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10-15-2023 , 06:13 PM

crsseyed

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"I feel like it’s really bad to have the 7c here, right?"

Expand on this?

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10-15-2023 , 06:53 PM

davomalvolio

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Originally Posted by crsseyed

"I feel like it’s really bad to have the 7c here, right?"

Expand on this?

I feel like to get him to call my River bet with worse, I’d like him to have called me on the Turn with a class of hands that usually have the 7c in them: 8x7c, 5x7c, all the 7x6x (that trapped on the flop).

Granted he could still have all the Ac8x and Ac5x hands—but when I have the 7c I feel like it pushes his River range more towards air or boats.

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11-08-2023 , 03:12 PM

davomalvolio

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RESULT:

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Originally Posted by davomalvolio

THIS HAND: I over-limp again, with 9c7c, and again we go 5-ways.

Flop 8c5d4c ($10, 5-handed)

SB leads for $6, Villain in BB calls, a couple folds, and this time I raise my combo draw to $20. Both blinds call.

Turn: 8c5d4c 3c (pot: $60, 3-handed).

I turn a flush. They both check. I bet $40. SB folds, BB calls.

River: 8c5d4c 3c 5s (pot: $140)

BB checks.

Is this a mandatory value bet, or are you finding a check-back? I feel like it’s really bad to have the 7c here, right?

I check it back. BB tables 82o and My Hand Is Good.

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11-09-2023 , 06:08 PM

009285832

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Just bet it. It's very low stakes live cash. It's not like you're playing lex luthor of Phil Ivey. Just bet the hand. He rivered a full house, good for him. He's likely got 10's or JJ.

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