5/10 NL

Vil. 1 - Fish that overvalues any top pair, raises for protection and stacks off very light.

Vil. 2 - A supposed online grinder that came back from Canada and now grinds live, been playing in this place about 2 months.

4 people limp to my button, I make it 60 with T7s, 4 ppl call.

Flop: T73r

Check, Check, Check, Check, I bet 150, Fish (next to act) raises to 350, fold, fold, Vil 2 calls (??), I call.

turn: 4 (2nd spade)

Fish checks, Vil 2 bets 750 with 1100 behind, Fish has about 1700.

Hero?
Can vil. 2 have anything other than 33 in this spot?

3bet flop

How do you think he plays 89?

3bet flop. Limp pre.

Would you think we are losing much by just folding this, even OTB?

V2 could have 33/77; possibly 107s.

3bet flop as played...

Why not limp pre?

Agree with above, 3 bet pre.

As played I shove.

Probably not making more than a few bucks here, but it's definitely a profitable limp. Plus, playing hands is fun!

So you are saying that if we know for sure that V2's range is 33, 77 and T7 we should 3! flop ?

Where did v2 limp from? I'm not sure I agree with 3b flop....I def think v2 has 33 a ton here. I also think overlimp pre or raise to like 80 is better than 60.

He limped CO

i usually limp here BTN but i guess raising is ok too
i have seen some sick individuals call in v2's position with a straight draw or gutshot on the flop expecting v1 to check the turn because the flop call looks so strong

those we say 3b flop, are we 3b/c or 3b/f?

just saw stack sizes i'm probably not folding for 200 bb's

Hmm, yeah, now that I think about it, V2 probably has 33 or maybe 77 more often than not.

I think this is just a fold. And I don't like a 3bet on the flop.

As for preflop I generally put this hand squarely in my limping range. I think your cards need to be higher (KTs etc.), or lower but more connected (76s) to raise. And I'd make it 75 over 4 limps if I were to raise.

Cooler unless he was tilting

One of the reasons live games are so good..nobody likes to make the tough fold.

Really surprised at everyone saying 3b flop, don't think that's a good plan at all. I like a call on the flop. I think we probably fold the turn unless we have a good reason not to.

Also this hand is a good example of why 107 isn't playable

We're in position and we get to fold when we hit top 2 vs. a set and that's a reason why it's not playable? If anything that's a reason TO play it if people are going to be this face up.

And yeah even though only 5 combos beat you turn's still a fold

More pre and 3 bet flop. As played seems a fold although I would probably call because fish is unlikely to stuff. Just out of curiosity what is your image that would allow an online pro to limp co on your bu? I am more prone to limping connectors in lp then small pps, so 33 can't be his only possible hand but 77? Who limps that monster?

Went over stack sizes equity seems more of a call now we are 30% against 33 with money behind and position plus may have added bonus of fish joining maybe I'm just terrible at folding in these spots but calling seems profitable, can't it be possible vill is isolating fish and will check back most rivers against your super strong looking flat? If fish folds pot is 2850 with 1.1k behind he can't possibly bluff you off or fold when you improve.

On what planet are we 30% against 33?

Oh wait we have a FD yeah don't fold turn call

No, no flush draw T7 suited, no spades, sorry for confusion.

Ahh crap I guess back to fold although I'm still curious as to vill limp co is that ever good?

I really thought the "..." in my post came across as sarcasm after I explicitly gave a range we chop with or lose to.