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05-30-2014 , 03:19 AM
Hero (300): 30s TAG.

V1 (500): 70ish. Very active; plays something like 70% of hands. Makes a lot of seemingly random bets with hands that have showdown value but are unlikely to be called by worse. Not totally crazy or unaware - capable of slowing down and/or folding; but it's very hard to put him on a range.

V2 (400): Late 20s. Solid-seeming TAG.

V3 (150): Early 40s. Standard straight-forward unimaginative player. Plays too many hands too passively, but isn't a station. Doesn't seem to slowplay or get tricky, but sometimes undervalues hands.

Hero raises to 10 UTG with AQ. 5 callers including V1 in BB, V2 UTG+1, V3 on button.

Flop (57): JT7

V1 bets 7. Hero, V2, and V3 call.

Turn (85): Q

V1 bets 25. Hero, V2, and V3 call.

River (185): 3

V1 bets 35...

Thoughts on all streets appreciated. I really didn't know what to think of V1's line.

I felt strongly after the turn that V2 had exactly KQ (or at least, that's about as strong as he could possibly be after not raising the flop or turn).

I wasn't really sure what to think of V3's range either, but I thought it was pretty weak. I think he would raise two pair or better on the flop, but he possibly could've turned two pair and been too timid to raise with a possible straight on board. I wouldn't be surprised if he had something like KT or J9.
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05-30-2014 , 03:29 AM
Wow... The sizing here is wicked small. Calling $7 on the flop is just asking for trouble. I don't know how this never got raised by anyone.

Raise or fold flop

AP I'm never folding TPTK Otr for 7-1 odds
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05-30-2014 , 04:21 AM
Ah, ye olde weirdo microbet. Your position here sucks due to V2 and V3 who can raise at their leisure. On the flop: on the one hand, you can raise in the hopes of just taking it down, or at best ending up heads up vs V1 (who's likely beating you unless he has something like K9), or call the microbet. I think a small raise is worth a shot despite the fact that V2/V3 could have easily hit this board. On the turn, a small raise is also worth a shot, again in an attempt to knock out V2/V3. We may be beating V1 now. As played, I fold the river. We're not necessarily getting 1:5.3 with V2/V3 left to act, one of whom may have had pair+gutshot that improved to flush, or one of whom maybe flopped two-pair and was equally hypnotized by the microbets. Impossible to say because they got such a great price so far.

This was all pretty influenced by V1's "Makes a lot of seemingly random bets with hands that have showdown value but are unlikely to be called by worse"
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05-30-2014 , 11:06 AM
Awkward hand...I like raising more preflop to about $15 when playing $1/2.

You were the original raiser so keep the initiative and raise flop to $35-$40 to isolate V....

As played, fold river with 2 players left to act after you....
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05-30-2014 , 01:27 PM
Our flop equity is limited because our overs might make straights for someone else and the card that gives us the straight is an over, so it might be difficult getting money from Jx when the K hits. I'm fine flatting otf.

If I raise somewhere it's ott. A lot of hands picked up outs but there's only one card to come now. And if V2/V3 fold I'm probably checking back a lot of rivers and getting to showdown. If a non-diamond K hit otr, that might be the only card I don't check back.
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05-30-2014 , 02:47 PM
This hand is a classic low stakes sh*t show with the small bets and multiple callers. I agree a raise on flop or turn is needed. You can't call on river with two players to act even though the bet is super weak. The take away on this hand is aggressive poker is winning poker, can't just call and hope to get here, esp multiway oop.
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05-30-2014 , 03:14 PM
So, let's say we flat the flop and want to raise the turn. What kind of sizing do you all like?
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05-30-2014 , 03:15 PM
75-85
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05-31-2014 , 04:29 AM
Thanks for the replies. Result:

I call, V2 calls, V3 folds.

V1 had 86.

V2 had KQ.
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