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I was playing 10-20 yesterday. Pot was straddled. Obviously good winning player raises 3x in ep. I make it 400 in mp AA. 4k effective. He folded instantly. His range is wide obv. There wasn't much squeezing in the game. Any merit to flatting pre because he is folding most if his range pre?

08-31-2014 , 11:54 AM

#227

cook-

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Quote:

Originally Posted by massivetilt99

What's with the sizing to $400?

08-31-2014 , 12:31 PM

#228

massivetilt99

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cook-

What's with the sizing to $400?

I know it was stupid. Probably 2.5x would be better. Fwiw he prob still folds. Also I feel like I don't want to let a clearly better-more experienced player in too cheap because little value to be extracted post flop. What do you think?

08-31-2014 , 02:47 PM

#229

verite

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Quote:

Originally Posted by massivetilt99

Sounds like you can print money by bluff 3 betting atc, and then after a while he won't fold to your AA as much.

08-31-2014 , 07:42 PM

#230

cook-

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Quote:

Originally Posted by massivetilt99

I apologize - I misread the hh by missing the fact that there was a straddle. So it's a $120 raise when it gets to you and then you made it $400. I still think the sizing is a little big. Being that there wasn't a lot of squeezing in that game, I probably raise small, to like $250. Good way to iso the OR since he's probably calling with his whole range here.

I'm not too concerned about others flatting because they still have to worry about the OR 4betting. And if they do flat; well, play poker.

08-31-2014 , 11:26 PM

#231

massivetilt99

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Originally Posted by verite

Sounds like you can print money by bluff 3 betting atc, and then after a while he won't fold to your AA as much.

I think your right. Bluffing good players is much easier than extracting value from them. I hate going up against solid players and getting into huge pots with them. It can't be that profitable

08-31-2014 , 11:38 PM

#232

massivetilt99

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cook-

I like having a fishy image actually because the regs will never try to bluff you so yes I can raise small and fold to unusual aggression on later streets

09-01-2014 , 09:16 PM

#233

MalkasGambit

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09-03-2014 , 03:01 AM

#234

DGAF

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09-03-2014 , 05:02 AM

#235

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Originally Posted by jrr63

I do have to say that PLO games seem to have "legs" in more places than ever before. At least in the rooms I visit when it goes it is usually the biggest game spread with the most potential profit, if you play well and run decently. Also high variance as others note, but the true gamboolers probably think they have a better chance in PLO than NLH (and they are probably right at least in the short term).

Most places that I've seen where PLO has flourished, NLH suffers and then HSPLO dies off after a couple of years and the poker economy goes down the drain.

That's why LA and Vegas, 2 places where the PLO footprint is very small, is still going strong year after year. Believe me PLO doesn't just break the fish, it destroys most winning regs as well. The variance is so huge that a ton of winning players end up quitting the game doing something else after initially winning then losing it all..