Hero has literally JUST sat down and posted the blind. the game is $1/$2 with a max $200 buyin.

Haven't played with the villain too many times, however there is some history. When i first started playing at this casino, I clashed with villain quite a few times in a very short period of time, resulting in me stacking him 3 times in succession, causing him to go on monkey-tilt and spew. Villain is a middle-aged asian man, typical loose, aggressive, poor player.

Hero is dealt AA in MP2. Limped to villain in MP1 who bets $15. Hero raises to $45. Villain flats, all others fold.

Flop: 723 (pot: $96)

Villain checks. Hero bets $50. Villain flats

Turn: 7 (pot: $196)

Villain puts me all-in. At this point im 100% sure villain has turned trips, but i'm getting a ridiculous price. Im thinking maybe i should have jammed the flop with a big over-bet. This may sound like quite a stupid question, but do you call because of the odds you're getting, even when you're almost 100% certain you're drawing to 2 outs? No, i don't have a soul-read on this dude or something, but i am quite certain he would donk with an overpair. 7-x is actually in his preflop 3b calling range because he's crazy.

Just browsing and curious to see how this is ever a fold

(but I'm an lolinternet player)

carry on

I don't see why he HAS to have a 7. It's possible, and if you are CERTAIN he has a 7, then calling with 2 outs is a bad call. I think he could do this with something like QQ or JJ as well, thinking that it's not possible that you have a 7 because you 3 bet pre.

from my description of him, do you believe villain would take this line with something like 88-AA when it's so blatantly obvious I have a hand here?

i mean, this sounds like a very easy crying-call, but I have come across this situation very many times and i am always crushed by trips

This isn't even a crying call imo. This is a snap call and oh well if he had a 7 because his line didn't make sense and we have the toppest pair on the driest of boards.

your description of villain: typical loose, aggressive, poor player.

That makes me think this is an even easier call.

I'm not saying he doesn't have a 7, but if you put him exclusively on a 7 and you are confident I don't believe you have the right odds to call knowing 100% you have 2 outs. If you can justify the call a little more with the possibility of him having other hands as well, the call isn't bad. I mean, if he remembers you, he could remember your history and just be trying to "get you back".

What do you mean he has to have a 7... unless he showed you one, there's almost no chance he hit that board considering he raised and flatted your 3-bet. Pretty much snap call.

If by some magical power you're 100% sure he has a 7 easy fold?

Reading objectively i kinda think this sounds ******ed . If someone else posted id say lol snap call=\

Yes you can make hero folds when you play the hand bad. Why bet half the pot your basically committed. You might as well shove all in on the flop.

But hey that's my gameplan not yours.

Like i said, i realise not jamming flop was bad.

Also, should have included; his demeanour and voice were very confident as he announced the all-in. Does this skew anyone's decision? Also, f u live donks, yes you're here to gambool after work, but im a poor uni kid, why do u have to crush my soul?

Hand is standard. Call the AI, cos there is so much in his range that you have crushed. And as you stated he's clearly a terrible player with this line.

guess its time to move up to where they respect my raises?

Yeah I played 1/2 like 2 sessions in my life. I immediately moved up to 2/5. The biggest difference is preflop raise.

At 2/5 you can raise $15,20 or 25, 30 or 35 OOP. Same goes for 5/10, 35,40 or 50. So its best for the serious player to get out of a game where the standard is 7.1 or 10bb pfr. Skill set decreases.

Wouldn't recommend playing higher if you're a "poor uni kid".

Villain shouldn't have a 7 in his range if he raised pre and called your 3bet OOP. I would have an easier time putting him on a worse overpair.

But your read is that he's crazy and can have the 7, so if you're beyond certain that he has trips, then you can fold. But I wouldn't make a habit of this play after putting in half your stack.

FWIW, I don't mind your CB size because you're crushing villain's range and you want to extract value. Knowing you have history with villain and that he's crazy, I would even say bet more.

But I would NOT shove flop. I'm not looking to fold out villain's worse hand. My goal would be to win his stack and I'd do that by making the biggest bet sizes that I think he'll call.

I feel like even if you shove flop he's going to call thinking his top pair is good for some reason.

His range looks only slightly less than ATC. He's playing anything suited, connected, wired, etc.

You've stacked him many times before you said, well variance gave him this one so go get him on the next one.

may the poker gods look favorably on me (don't want to go completely busto)

Great, it sucks he stacked you on the first hand.

But the moral of the story is this guy calls 23bb 3bets with 76o. You should be ecstatic. You will make your money back from this guy eventually, just play smart, and now you have the read on him that:

-he calls 3bets with garbage
-he plays his good made hands straightforwardly (i.e. not tricky, note that he didn't c/r you, he just donk-shoved)

If it's my first hand at a table and I'm kinda newish, I would consider shoving AA preflop (especially with your prior history of stacking villain and him being spewy/tilty).

Most villains who open preflop and call a big preflop raise don't have a 7 in their range (apart from unlikely 77), and even 33/22 are more likely to limp, methinks. This really looks like KK-88 to me. I insta-call, expecting to be good most of the time.

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With $96 in the pot and you having $155 left on this kind of flop I'd just be thinking of how to get it all in ASAP and generally I'd shove all in on flop since I mix my shoves up with hands like AK in similar scenarios.

Are you thinking this in hindsight because you wanted him to fold on the flop? I hope not. This guy raised a limped pot in MP with 76o and called a 3-bet. Basic poker concepts completely escape him so why overbet the flop when you absolutely crush his range on the driest of boards? Especially if he is going to commit himself to the hand with TPNK. If you jam the flop he may actually fold the worst hand. Bet what you think he will call OTF, stack sizes are irrelevant to this villain.

with over 1/3 of your stack in the pot you have to call

In fact you should of shoved on the flop or just made a far smaller raise.

Bet $60 to $75 on the flop. The rest is just a bad beat.

These two thoughts are contradictory. Your 100% sure villain has a 7 (which is practically impossible to know given villain description). But then your certain he is donking with overpairs. Which is it?

Wow can you be much more results-oriented? You let the negative outcome of one hand change the way your playing this spot in the future.

Yea that's a sound conclusion. LOL Don't adjust or realize the impact of variance. Just move up were you get less action on your hands. ROFL.

This is what you should be focusing on. Take note of villains tendencies and exploit him. Who cares if you ran into the top of his range?

You should just rename your OP "Feel my pain for getting sucked out and help me justify my results-oriented thinking". Actually its not just your post. This could be the title of half the posts in this forum.

Such a boring/straightforward spot from a strategic perspective. The only interesting thing about this hand is your LOL hind-sight thinking and adjustments.

snap this off.

if he called your 3bet with some garbage containing a 7, gg to him. whatever. the only hand he could POSSIBLY call your pf 3bet with is 77, but we're not really putting him on quads, are we? doubtful that he calls your pf 3bet with 22 or 33, so i ship it.

... either that or he's a total idiot, and you'll rape him 10 fold over future sessions when he continues to call big 3bets pf with trash.

snap call
saw result lol at how he played it