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10-29-2010 , 02:01 AM
Blinds 5/10 (Short-stacked game BI 200)

Villain 1: SB - 205
Villain 2: BB - 325
Button : BTN - 160
Hero : UTG- 305
Villain 3: MP1- 355
Villain 4: MP2- 360
Villain 5: CO - 765

Villain 3 is extremely loose, down about 500 and shoved a few times with nothing. Also min raises very wide.

Villain 4 is tight conservative

Villain 5 loosened up to counter Villain 3 and called one of the shoves (190) with KQo

Hero has AKs and limps
>Villain 3 min raises to 20
Villain 4 calls
>Villain 5 min re-raises to 40
BTN fold; Villain 1 fold
Villain 2 calls
Hero calls
>Villain 3 min re-raises to 80
Villain 4 folds (Pot 265)
>Villain 5 shoves all-in (765 total)
Villain 2 folds
Hero (stack 225 to call)


These guys (Villain 3 and Villain 5) were playing at each other all night and so by the time Villain 5 shoves I figure he would be making a play at the pot with a semi-wide range of hands 99+, AQo+ but i still wasn't sure if I should call or fold

Just want to find out what you guys would do in this situation.
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10-29-2010 , 02:05 AM
i wouldnt fold

Last edited by br3nt00; 10-29-2010 at 02:05 AM. Reason: first!
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10-29-2010 , 02:29 AM
not sure with 30bb that there is a fold here.

any reason you didnt raise?
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10-29-2010 , 02:33 AM
yea, villain 3 was raising every single hand before this and was getting called so i was planning repop it at some point (although that didn't happen). Also it was my last hand of the night and i was planning to see a cheap flop and fold if nothing connected if no-one raised.
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10-29-2010 , 02:51 AM
wtf... Just wtf...
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10-29-2010 , 02:52 AM
wtf to what?...its that obvious?
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10-29-2010 , 02:54 AM
I'd find a new place to play.
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10-29-2010 , 02:58 AM
yea play was pretty terrible but i guess i was just a little unsure since the guy ended up having Aces and the tight conservative guy said he folded AKo.
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10-29-2010 , 03:17 AM
u cant call with KQ in a 4bet pot thts been minraised.
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10-29-2010 , 03:36 AM
Yeah lets fold AK for 30BB because he CLEARLY has aces.
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10-29-2010 , 12:55 PM
lol at these stacks. Just open the damn pot and shove over a raise and rebuy?
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10-30-2010 , 12:19 AM
results oriented... and the other player lied btw.
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10-30-2010 , 02:33 AM
They were saying you should find another place to play because of the silly structure, not because of the level of play.

Short stacked like this (effective stacks 36BB or less), AK is teh nuts. If there is any 3-bet pre, there basically is no post flop play.

Villain 5 is clearly trying to ISO vs Villain 3, who's range he's sure he crushes. You should call so fast your chips catch fire from the friction.

Edit: and you should never have called the first three bet, you should have come over the top of it, imo
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10-30-2010 , 03:09 AM
I don't mind the l/rr here as stacks are so short and if villain 3 was raising every hand then there will be plenty of dead money in the pot when the action gets back to you. The limp call is horrible however. Villain would pretty much have to show me AA before i'd fold here.
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10-30-2010 , 04:12 AM
There's really no purpose limping here UTG if you're not willing to shove over the top of these min raises, when it is raised and reraised here you either are shoving and getting called somewhat rarely by worse, or folding. Most of the time you're just going to have to race here and win a flip to get deep enough for some post flop play.
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10-30-2010 , 06:19 PM
when action comes back to you first time after your limp, you shove. this is what you were hoping for right????

you WANT to be all in preflop with AK at 30BB. the flat call hurts my head.

what a weird game with everyone buying in so short.....
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10-30-2010 , 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by jsaliba
when action comes back to you first time after your limp, you shove. this is what you were hoping for right????

you WANT to be all in preflop with AK at 30BB. the flat call hurts my head.

what a weird game with everyone buying in so short.....
what he said.

Everything else is LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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