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04-08-2012 , 05:19 PM
I’ve been viewing the forums for a few months now and finally created an account. I have been a recreational player for a while.
Not a grinder or anything but I like to win. I play $1/2 (for now) and I wanted to hear people’s idea on the C-Bet.

For instance with AK, would you C-Bet if you miss? I use to bet the flop but I no longer bet the flop if I miss because I get called 8/10 times.
Then I am in a rough spot on the turn. Since I stopped C-Betting with AK my profit has increased. Many players will bet the flop with AK often
but I prefer to check. Any thoughts?
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04-08-2012 , 05:24 PM
Welcome,
It depends on the table dynamics and the flop textures, to determine if we cbet .
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04-08-2012 , 05:36 PM
Welcome,

there is a lot of info on this forum so you can find pretty much everything you need via the search function. Here is a recent thread on c-betting (see below link)

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...tures-1190257/

Also, the more specific your question, the better responses you will get. You are better off posting a specific hand that gave you problems than open ended questions.

If you have an open ended poker question, try the Poker Theory forum under "General Poker"

Once again, welcome to 2+2
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04-08-2012 , 07:15 PM
What's the flop?
how many saw the flop?
how do they play preflop?
how do they play on the flop?
how do they play on the turn based on what happened on the flop?
how do they respond to bets?
how do they respond to checks?
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04-08-2012 , 07:19 PM
Live I very rarely c-bet. Seems I always get a **** ton of callers. Also pot size bet or 2/3 live.
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04-08-2012 , 07:21 PM
Also this is 1/2 at my local place. Yours might be different. Just moving up to 1/3 here changes my play style a lot.
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04-08-2012 , 09:33 PM
if its heads up or 3 way ill cbet 90% of the time with AK

only way i wont is if the flop is like 8910 all spades and i dont have one, b/c youll always get a caller and u may be dead already

but on dry flops or even semi-wet ones i always cbet to rep overpair and double barrel at pretty much any turn

4 way ill cbet 70% of the time, only not doing it on extremely wet flops

but 5 way ill only do it if its very dry

also if theres tons of weak players ill c bet more and of a weak player calls ill double barell with ease

also if i have a guthot and 2 overs
like q10 or j 10 or qj flop ill cbet even if its wet as if u hit your gutter ull get paid and u have 2 overs


overall i probably cbet 75% of the time with AK and double barrel 60%
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04-08-2012 , 10:26 PM
in hu pots, super easy c-bet..its gonna work most of the time.

in 4-5 way pots, if i brick this is an easy check fold
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04-08-2012 , 10:36 PM
Dirty T, the key things you need to ask yourself when you are debating a cbet with AK is:

How many ppl saw the flop?
If its 1 or 2, a cbet is probably right. If its, 3, 4 or more, you rarely want to be cbetting when you miss.

Who saw the flop?
Is it a loose calling station? If so, you don't want to bet and try bluffing someone that doesnt fold.

Is it a nitty old guy? If so, you probably want to be cbetting to make him fold his pocket pairs that didn't hit sets, but are way ahead of you.


What was the flop?

Did the board hit the ranges you have for your opponets, based on preflop action/ their tendencies??


If its a dry board that most people dont hit, like J52, QQ4, etc., its probably better to bet. If its a wet board like 789, 8QJ, etc., its probably better to check it back.



Notice I wrote "probably" a lot. That's because these are never certain rules or guidelines in poker. It all depends on the situation and how these bolded variables intersect each other.
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04-08-2012 , 11:23 PM
Lots of good input guys. Also, I realized that I do C-Bet when its heads-up. I am going to pay more attention to scenarios and go from there. Thanks everybody
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04-09-2012 , 07:57 AM
stack sizes are pretty important.

the deeper you are against competent players the less you should c-bet imo.
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04-09-2012 , 10:06 AM
Dan Harrington book discourages this in low limit weak live games as players don't usually fold their weak pair in these games. Of course there maybe situation specially against only one or 2 villain when you can cbet for fold equity.
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04-09-2012 , 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by newbie1978
Dan Harrington book discourages this in low limit weak live games as players don't usually fold their weak pair in these games. Of course there maybe situation specially against only one or 2 villain when you can cbet for fold equity.
+1
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