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11-06-2023 , 05:57 AM
Hand: $5/5/50, ~$13k effective. Hero opens CO w/ Ac6c, BB 3! to $800, Hero calls. Flop QcJc3c. Villain $450, Hero calls. Turn 8d. Villian $1.2k, Hero calls. River 6s. Villain $3.5k. Hero?

Villain is a competent player, pretty snug. If I call like 3/5, raises 1/5, and fold 1/5 of my suited Ax combos to the 3! (excluding AK/AQ), is this sound? In other words, how should I respond with suited aces in general facing a 4x 3! from the blinds, as the CO or BTN? Can I raise this flop? Turn? Would only raise 9d10d, 9s10s, 9h10h on turn for value. Should JJ/33 be included here? Against it because I’d rather not stack off for nearly 300bb and get coolered by QQ. And, lastly, of least importance, what would you do with my combo on the river and why?

Cheers,
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11-06-2023 , 08:21 AM
Fold preflop. Thats a large percentage of your stack to be calling a 3b with the worst Axs. You really should not have much of a raising range on this board on the flop or turn. You should not be raising those 910 hands at any point or sets. Your jam is basically 3x sizing on the river and any other size looks equally as strong. 2x size might look stronger. Id put in the rest without much thought for another size.

Your specific combo you can raise at some frequency at some point, but this is a huge game and to keep it simple I like your check call line throughout as not sure where you play at but Id guess you see a lot of the same people from week to week and this hand will stick in their minds. It should make it so when you dont have the nuts and you check call you will realize more equity with your middling hands from guys checking more streets against you.
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11-06-2023 , 10:42 AM
**** sorry the flop was QcJc3d not 3 of clubs. So, no, I did not flop the nut flush. I wish.
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11-06-2023 , 11:28 AM
That changes things lol. Again 3b is at least 4x im guessing, and you arent deep enough or even close to call preflop. You block AK so calling the river would not be something I would consider much - 12 combos AK. 3 combos QQ. 3 JJ. 3 AQs. 6 KK. 1AA 3 QJs. 109s 4 3 KQs, questionable 3 street hand though. 88? 3. Guess its closer than I thought after counting them all and the pot odds, but Id still fold. Is he taking this line with all 12 combos of AK? Am I missing anything obvious? Most of those hands in his range are not folding to a jam. Maybe AQs and KQs. So fold pre, play flop and turn the same and Id fold river. Unless you have a wild image and he is 3b very light based on it, but you dont say much about your image or history with villain. Maybe raise flop at some frequency and take the free card on the turn.
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11-06-2023 , 11:54 AM
Yes yes, agree. As it pertains to image, I’m opening quite a bit but that’s about it. Sad to hear we have to fold Ax combos. I guess I’ll occasionally call A5s but lean towards 4! or folding. In no world am I ever folding A10s+.
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11-06-2023 , 12:28 PM
I like to raise the flop. You want to drive away all the better Ax. Against a BB 3bet you may have a very marginal advantage on this board? Certainly you have all the sets and probably more 2 pair than the BB.

As played, blocking the flush draw bluffs I would just fold.

Preflop would be a fold by default but I know these big games can be pretty splashy, so as long as you know your game dynamic then I suppose it's OK
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11-06-2023 , 12:54 PM
Yeah, fold pre. This is your worst suited ace ace. Wheel aces are better. Arriving on the flop this is a good bluff raise candidate. River probably just a fold blocking clubs. If you wanted to have bluff jams on this river, I think they would center around JdTd, Jd9d, but villain probably needs to be folding AQ for that to be profitable, and it's only 7,500 in a pot that will be like 26k if he calls, so it isn't a super attractive bluff spot.
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