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02-10-2016 , 11:08 PM
Everyone posts the tough hands, the big pots and the hands where they think they may have screwed up. But what about a typical boring hand?

$2/$5 Live

2 limpers, I limp AT in MP. Yes I could raise but I didnt. 1 more limper and then both blinds play.

Pot $30. Flop 9s6c2c. Checks around. Sometimes I would bet here since nobody else wants the pot but someone will probably call with a flush draw so I check also. Checks around

Pot $30. Turn 9h. Checked to me. Im bored now so I check also. Checks thru.

Pot $30. River 3d. Whoever bets wins. Blinds check, UTG bets $30. Hes a solid player and probably has something like 55. Folded to me and I min raise to $60. UTG doesnt have a 9 and a min raise on the river is always a monster right? Everyone folds and I take it down. Wheeeeeee
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02-10-2016 , 11:26 PM
Maybe PF is
Raise>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>call>>>>>>fold
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02-11-2016 , 01:14 AM
I think it's raise > fold > call. AT (I'm assuming off suit) multi way in middle position doesn't sound like a lot of positive EV to me.

I think this might be a bit of a unicorn. You didn't bet TP on the flop, so even LLSNL players will tend to be suspicious of your having a 9 if you bet the turn. There are some draws that might find a call, and you have to wade through a lot of people. I agree with the check here.

If V hadn't bet river, I don't think first bet necessarily gets it. By the river, no one really fears a 9 any more for just one reasonable bet. Bombing the river might work well -- and that's essentially what you did. Added bonus, someone was kind enough to sweeten it for you first.

Overall, I like the post play. Yeah, the situation was unusual and unlikely, but I think your minraise capitalized on it nicely.
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02-11-2016 , 01:38 AM
Thinking back I may have had a small suited ace. I think I wouldve raised AT there. The point is that a min raise on the river works as a bluff quite well if you pick your spots.
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02-11-2016 , 01:47 AM
voted five stars. well played
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02-11-2016 , 02:05 AM
I love the min raise bluff
It doesnt have to work that often to pay for it self but it has too used on the right person someone that understands what is going on.
I also love the min raise river for value as most people just can't lay it down for such a good price even when they know they are beat.
As for the hand AT in mp i would be folding if it is a aggressive game or raising if passive game
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02-11-2016 , 02:09 AM
Ur a wizard. Love it. 10/10.
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02-11-2016 , 02:13 AM
reading this thread felt like I was listening to a pretentious child who did a nice drawing and knows it, but because he needs attention/validation puts his drawing up for everyone to see and screams "don't look at my drawing, its ugly"

and then says he was just bored when people congratulate him.
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02-11-2016 , 04:15 AM
Don't like the limp with this hand, poor position and plays badly multi way. Not sure I like the raise either.. I don't see what you're repping except 33 and 99. I probably call here as V unless I'm on total air. But it's nice to have some bluffs in this spot as well I guess.
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02-11-2016 , 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by sewktbk
reading this thread felt like I was listening to a pretentious child who did a nice drawing and knows it, but because he needs attention/validation puts his drawing up for everyone to see and screams "don't look at my drawing, its ugly"

and then says he was just bored when people congratulate him.
Thank you for the validation and attention. I will sleep better tonight.
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02-11-2016 , 10:47 AM
I'd raise pre. The flop likely missed everyone and I'd bet after three checks. I'd be prepared to double or triple barrel. Bluff raising the river is fine. It needs to work 50% of the time. I doubt it's always that successful. It's a cheap way to show a bluff when called and get more action when you hit.
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02-11-2016 , 10:57 AM
Your min raise reps nothing so yah I'd expect the majority of the population to call you with whatever they bet the river with.

Pre was bad obviously.
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02-11-2016 , 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by johnnyBuz
Your min raise reps nothing so yah I'd expect the majority of the population to call you with whatever they bet the river with.

Pre was bad obviously.
What does a fairly aggressive and competent player limp UTG with and then check this flop and turn? Hes the one who bet the river.
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02-11-2016 , 11:20 AM
I'm guessing 44 or 55. It's a bad fold because you don't rep anything.
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02-11-2016 , 11:29 AM
Thank you for posting a hand of 'poker' and not a hand of cards. Being aware of the table dynamic can help out your stack .. which 'allows' you to limp hands like Arag a bit more if you choose to put that in your style. GL
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02-11-2016 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Kebabkungen
I'm guessing 44 or 55. It's a bad fold because you don't rep anything.
Thats what I think he had also, but he couldve also had any number of other things and just decided to bet because 90% of the times in hands like this nobody has anything and the first bet wins. It happens probably 10-15% of hands during the daytime with a bunch of old regs.

I might also min raise with A6s there.
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02-11-2016 , 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnyBuz
Your min raise reps nothing so yah I'd expect the majority of the population to call you with whatever they bet the river with.

Pre was bad obviously.
There are a few made hands he has, 33, 54s. Doubtful much else. Considering Hero is over limping MP with solid raising hands, I wouldn't put it past him to be limping baby SCs in MP either
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02-11-2016 , 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by johnny_on_the_spot
There are a few made hands he has, 33, 54s. Doubtful much else. Considering Hero is over limping MP with solid raising hands, I wouldn't put it past him to be limping baby SCs in MP either
So what? You're still going to get called when you rep such a narrow range and offer 4:1 pot odds. If this is a bluff >20% of the time it's a profitable call for villain.
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02-11-2016 , 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnyBuz
So what? You're still going to get called when you rep such a narrow range and offer 4:1 pot odds. If this is a bluff >20% of the time it's a profitable call for villain.
I don't disagree, just pointing out that he has a few made hands, since everyone is piling on saying he can't have anything
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02-11-2016 , 09:09 PM
Did you stand up and yell bingo when you won the hand? because you should have.
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