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Binking the turn, how to proceed? 1/2 NL Binking the turn, how to proceed? 1/2 NL

02-14-2019 , 04:29 PM
V1: ($500) guy in his late 20's, not many reads on him , doesn't seem like he is getting too out of line overall

V2: MAWG loose passive ($100)

Hero: I cover V1 by a little, fairly new to table , just got lucky with TT (i just posted that hand)

V1 limps UTG, I raise to 14 from UTG+2, both V's call

3 way to a F : AQ6 (hhx), (42); X'd around, i don't see any reason to cb here given that they will have a bunch of AX and broadway hands here

T:8c, V1 leads for 25....Hero?

While tanking … V2 folds out of turn so we are essentially HU

Thanks for any feedback
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02-14-2019 , 04:32 PM
What's your hand?
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02-14-2019 , 05:31 PM
oh wow , i have pocket 8's here
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02-14-2019 , 05:39 PM
Raise to $95 or so.
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02-14-2019 , 05:42 PM
I think calling turn and raising river is gonna be the most profitable option.

Limp calling from UTG suggests that your opponent likely does not have AA, QQ, or AQ. A6/66 is basically the only options for strong value hands that V could possibly have.

As the PFR, that then checked flop on A high board, raising V's turn donk lead screams strength. Usually 2+ plus and often a set on this board. Since your opponent is unlikely to have a strong hand (2pair+). I think letting him keep the betting lead is going to be more profitable.

Also, you definitely don't have a heart draw as you would almost 100% c-bet that flop, so raising here is only strong made hands.

He's often going to continue on the river and when he does then you can raise.
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02-14-2019 , 07:24 PM
Flop
I agree about not cbetting this flop multiway. Aces and queens are probably calling, V2 is probably calling pretty widely.

Turn
I think that you have to raise here. Villain could have a flush draw that is only taking one stab with, so by flatting you lose value there. And when Villain has Ax, I think that you could win two bets from that (the raise here and then another on the river).

jtm1208, I think that your comments are very valid when playing against a more thoughtful opponent, but since we're at 1/2, I wouldn't give Villain credit for that sort of thought process.
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02-14-2019 , 07:28 PM
Is this real? Did you and V really just post this hand? Given that everyone knows his hand, I don't think you're going to get very good advice ITT.
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02-15-2019 , 04:37 AM
This is a must-raise spot, and oversize is an option since it is going to look a bit fishy anyway. Raise to 100 is standardish, but going for 125 - 145 is reasonable. 160+ if optimistic
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02-15-2019 , 12:17 PM
I am over betting the pot here... $95 - $105... Get as most money in on the turn in case a heart comes in on the river. I would not be afraid of the heart, but V probably will be. If river is a blank, V will most likely bet his A, you can raise, and he will not be able to get away. If the river is a heart, V is not putting any more money in anyway..
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02-15-2019 , 05:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jtm1208
I think calling turn and raising river is gonna be the most profitable option.

Limp calling from UTG suggests that your opponent likely does not have AA, QQ, or AQ. A6/66 is basically the only options for strong value hands that V could possibly have.

As the PFR, that then checked flop on A high board, raising V's turn donk lead screams strength. Usually 2+ plus and often a set on this board. Since your opponent is unlikely to have a strong hand (2pair+). I think letting him keep the betting lead is going to be more profitable.

Also, you definitely don't have a heart draw as you would almost 100% c-bet that flop, so raising here is only strong made hands.

He's often going to continue on the river and when he does then you can raise.
this was my thought process initially , I was going to just flat call for these reasons

I should be betting my heart draws OTF for sure so my raise does look very strong

I ultimately decided to raise to charge the flush draws and bloat the pot vs his value range, I was def. torn between calling and raising
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02-15-2019 , 05:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Garick
Is this real? Did you and V really just post this hand? Given that everyone knows his hand, I don't think you're going to get very good advice ITT.
Yea this is the first time this has happened lol well at least we both know the holdings now
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02-16-2019 , 12:09 PM
Raise turn for sure. The simple reason is he has ton of hands that can call you and you want to play for stacks. You also widen your range by raising turn rather than river because you could be on a draw
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02-16-2019 , 08:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tmo1120
V1: ($500) guy in his late 20's, not many reads on him , doesn't seem like he is getting too out of line overall

V2: MAWG loose passive ($100)

Hero: I cover V1 by a little, fairly new to table , just got lucky with TT (i just posted that hand)

V1 limps UTG, I raise to 14 from UTG+2, both V's call

3 way to a F : AQ6 (hhx), (42); X'd around, i don't see any reason to cb here given that they will have a bunch of AX and broadway hands here

T:8c, V1 leads for 25....Hero?

While tanking … V2 folds out of turn so we are essentially HU

Thanks for any feedback
Raise to 120, push a reraise and/or 100% turns
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