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Big decision 500NLHE!Live cash game! Help! Big decision 500NLHE!Live cash game! Help!

06-09-2016 , 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by WOAT1Time
ProPokerTools Hold'em Simulation
11,880 trials (Exhaustive)
board: 9 2 3
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
9964.44% 7,6560
AsJs35.56% 4,2240

ah, it's including the 3 could be a spade, my mistake/good catch.

Of course you can guess what Kelly says about betting 100% of your roll as a 3-1 favorite. Walking away with the money is far superior for wealth building.
anyone who´s yoloing it up from 500 to 5k with possible not much more money to their names never finds a better spot for wealth building than taking a 75% fav flip.
what do you think he´s doing with the 5k? grinding nlh 1/1? having a massive edge in poker in general?
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06-09-2016 , 08:20 AM
yoloing it up =)
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06-09-2016 , 08:27 AM
i would have asked him to run turn and river two times. Otherwise i dont think i risk 4.5k for one hand if i have no money more to live.
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06-09-2016 , 08:28 AM
maybe everyone should consider the following hypothetical:

You're in a fishy uncapped game. You buyin for $500, run it up to some large amount. A crazy rich guy says he'll flip a flush draw vs your set as many times as you want, however after each win it's for double the stakes. You agree and win 3 flips. Now the money is getting pretty huge. How many more times do you take this flip?
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06-09-2016 , 12:26 PM
Crazy this goes from a 27 bet into a ~60 pot to a 5k allin. I understand the decision you had to make, but I call this every time.

+1 to showing and trying to make a deal first tho.
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06-09-2016 , 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Snoopy5
maybe everyone should consider the following hypothetical:

You're in a fishy uncapped game. You buyin for $500, run it up to some large amount. A crazy rich guy says he'll flip a flush draw vs your set as many times as you want, however after each win it's for double the stakes. You agree and win 3 flips. Now the money is getting pretty huge. How many more times do you take this flip?
why consider something that will never happen irl?
i´d stop after winning the flip for 64k since i am good at flipping
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06-09-2016 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by sauhund
why consider something that will never happen irl?
i´d stop after winning the flip for 64k since i am good at flipping
You mean kind of like this original HH? Notice this was the OPs first post and he has since disappeared?
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06-09-2016 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by sauhund
why consider something that will never happen irl?
i´d stop after winning the flip for 64k since i am good at flipping
it's important to know your tolerance for free roll prop bets. you never know when a rich crazy guy will cross your path.
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06-09-2016 , 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by sauhund
try plo.

anyways, I still don´t get how one can run it up to 5k on nl500 with maybe his last few bucks without either getting cold feet much earlier or yoloing it in here in a heartbeat expecting to winning 100%.
It's possible that he didn't encounter a spot before where he was risking 1.5k+ in one hand.

Couple of months ago I was playing PLO200 and ran it up to 2k which ended up being around 12.5% of my BR on the table. I kept playing because there was a fish at the table and it seemed the +ev thing to do. The fish then doubled up a reg in a huge pot so that the reg was also now sat with 1800.

At that point the fish left and the table ended up breaking - but had he stayed, what would be the +ev thing for me to do? I mean, I wouldn't really fancy flipping in a huge pot for a large chunk of my BR if I got in a big pot with the reg. But that's prob going to be a rare event and there's lots of ev to make off the fish.

Obv in PLO I'll never get villain overbetting 200x pot or anything ridiculous like that but still - if I have AA, I don't know how happy I'll be 4 or 5betting it in this scenario.
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06-09-2016 , 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Snoopy5
maybe everyone should consider the following hypothetical:

You're in a fishy uncapped game. You buyin for $500, run it up to some large amount. A crazy rich guy says he'll flip a flush draw vs your set as many times as you want, however after each win it's for double the stakes. You agree and win 3 flips. Now the money is getting pretty huge. How many more times do you take this flip?
how many spades or pairing(for him) cards have peeled off in the first 3 flips?

Id probably run out the entire deck.
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06-09-2016 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by sauhund
anyone who´s yoloing it up from 500 to 5k with possible not much more money to their names never finds a better spot for wealth building than taking a 75% fav flip.
what do you think he´s doing with the 5k? grinding nlh 1/1? having a massive edge in poker in general?
Telling him to cash out and spend the monies on a great drugs fueled suicide makes more sense than saying lol call then.
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06-09-2016 , 07:56 PM
There is also the thought that OP is actually a losing player. I get the sense that this is certainly possible if not likely. From a pure money making standpoint he's much better off putting it all on the line as a 3:1 fave then he is slowly losing it over a liger stretch.

Coin flips FR stacks favor losing players since they'll lose over the long run otherwise.
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06-09-2016 , 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by spikeraw22
There is also the thought that OP is actually a losing player. I get the sense that this is certainly possible if not likely. From a pure money making standpoint he's much better off putting it all on the line as a 3:1 fave then he is slowly losing it over a liger stretch.

Coin flips FR stacks favor losing players since they'll lose over the long run otherwise.
LIGER STRETCH!

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06-09-2016 , 10:28 PM
Son a mother ****er phone god damn it.
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06-10-2016 , 01:00 AM

Last edited by airwave16; 06-10-2016 at 01:05 AM. Reason: because anything else is super pathetic
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10-09-2016 , 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Snoopy5
maybe everyone should consider the following hypothetical:

You're in a fishy uncapped game. You buyin for $500, run it up to some large amount. A crazy rich guy says he'll flip a flush draw vs your set as many times as you want, however after each win it's for double the stakes. You agree and win 3 flips. Now the money is getting pretty huge. How many more times do you take this flip?
I'd stop if I got to $32k. So I'd want to win 6 consecutive flips.
$500 -> $1k -> $2k -> $4k -> $8k -> $16k -> $32k

If I had a bigger bank account, then I'd be more willing to continue, but I don't.
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10-09-2016 , 11:17 AM
he shows you AJ, you snap show him top set and ask if he wants to surrender $2k now or run it once.
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10-09-2016 , 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by innocent16
thanks for your answer venice. you're in my mind. finally after he showed me the AJ I i folded after 30sec and i thought ''i don't want to gamble with the drunk malaka,i don't have the balls'', immediately i woke up and took the rest 4750 and went home..
maybe some guys think that's easy call but i can't describe my feelings that moment.. it's weird to 10x your bi and take a risk even if it's 75-25..

+10000 to venice s answer. hate others stupid bored kids' answer.

but then it s not about "u have 10x ur buy in now".
u also need to consider that even for a Pro player he wouldnt have 1kbb spot all the time. says if negative variance gets u there : even if u were pro it takes time to get the positive variance to catch up.

it totally relies on how 4.8k is significant for you.

But again, if u have a regular income of more than 2k a month - with no specific case (oweing money to bank or ppls... or someone sick at home) I think it s fine to call a 75/25 for 4.5k especially u started with 450 because if u lost, u can just consider that you lost one buy in of 450 that night ))

call me next time, i take spot if i win i give u 1k if i lose i give u back the 4.8 k so u can freeroll
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