Just because bad players sometimes luck into the right play for the wrong or oversimplified reasons doesn't invalidate the basic poker concept of raising for value.

Edit: Thin value is something like me betting A8 on the river on a flop like T82, Turn K, River 3 versus a terrible calling station that will call down with any pair. That's thin value. And that isn't even super thin. I think you have the wrong idea about how thin thin value is. It's super thin.

Top pair good kicker is not thin value against a huge range. It's basic value betting.

Warlockjd nailed the point I was going to make.

I'm not trying to be a dick so please know that what i'm about to say is said with the best intention of making you a better player.

Based on your post, you have a fundamental lack of understanding regarding equity, ranging, and Sklansky bucks. Whether he is a bad LAG or bad aggressives more or less the same. A bad player with the description you provided will have a wide range that calls you with lesser hands. And letting him bet the turn for 1/4th pot is just criminal. Now, if he potted the turn, that is a different story. But he didn't. He block betted you for a ridiculously low amount...

This is not my opinion. This is cold hard mathematical fact. I create mathematical poker simulations all the time and i've modeled similar scenarios like this and I can tell you unequivically that you are just flat out wrong here. Not by a little bit, by a lot.

And I would bet that your fundamental misunderstandings of these key concepts are causing other leaks in your game, leaks you probably aren't even aware of.

You need to figure out how to mathematically model this situation for yourself. If you Google "Sklansky bucks and equity and EV calculations" you should be able to figure out how to mathematically model this for yourself.

Get the equity from poker stove, input your hand then input villains range and the board...

then plug those numbers into a basic EV calculation...

good luck

The first thing I thought when reading is why arent you raising the flop? What hands are ahead of you that he donks? None, and even if hes leading a set hes going to 3bet shove and you can fold. I can't even get into raising the turn, because I'm raising that flop for value almost always. If hes good enough to 3bet bluff shove worse then gg, but 99% arent. lol @ whoever said to fold pre, and raising pre is the best option. You will get called by alot of dominated hands.

Your mistake here was not raising the turn. By raising the turn you gain a lot more info on what he might have. maybe hit a flush draw which is why he only bet $30 into a 180 pot. Not much of a blocker bet if you ask me, but then again he probably doesn't know what that is. But ya raise that turn and act accordingly

Pre is 100% standard.

Flop is totally villain dependent. I don't like bad LAG as a description. Think more specifically about what he does that we can exploit. Is he barrelly/stationy/check raise happy. Overbet/underbets etc. This whole hand boils down to this info.

Flatting or raising the flop are totally fine against different types of common spastic.

Same true for turn.

On the river this is a nutty hand almost always. 30/30/100 = he suddenly looks for value. Could be he improved, could be he did something ******ed with a monster OTT but unless I'd seen him take this specific line as a bluff before i'd snap fold if I'd got to the river this way.

Why are we raising PF, hitting TPGK and just calling this down?