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05-10-2026 , 06:17 PM
£1/£2 £5 straddle rake 5%/£10 +£1 promo
I am straddle.
V1 opens Btn to £22 not unusual in this game where unstraddled pots frequently see raises to £10
V2 flats from BB
I make it £75 from £420 with AQo
V1 folds
V2 loosish and generally quite stationy

Flop £178 10s4c8s
V2 ck
I cbet £75 with no spades - thoughts here Given the subsequent action i now wish I had checked back but is that results oriented

V2 jams and covers by around £100
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05-10-2026 , 07:06 PM
What is Ben

C-Betting is debatable against a station that hits his range more than yours, though I get it after a 3-bet and in position. If you do, slightly smaller.

After the jam this seems like a fairly easy fold; we are behind everything including his draws, and its hard to construct a range where we would have positive EV.
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05-11-2026 , 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by hitchens97
What is Ben

C-Betting is debatable against a station that hits his range more than yours, though I get it after a 3-bet and in position. If you do, slightly smaller.

After the jam this seems like a fairly easy fold; we are behind everything including his draws, and its hard to construct a range where we would have positive EV.

Ben is autocorrect of btn
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05-11-2026 , 04:52 AM
V is "quite stationy". Which means you beat V by thin value bets not by bluffing as by definition his mistake is he calls too often. Don't make plays where V's known errors are turned into correct hero calls.
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05-11-2026 , 12:20 PM
Straddlers love to raise their straddle

I am not very impressed with AQo and can’t see raising OOP without massive fold equity. Like small pairs, I want to get in as cheap as possible and continue when I hit.

I don’t understand the flop bet when you missed everything and can take a free card.

You have to fold to the jam - you don’t even have a decent draw.

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People raise (because I’m supposed to with this hand) without any plan at all. This is not a good situation: out of position, mediocre hand, without enough stack depth to maneuver. You already know that you can’t make this guy fold, you kinda set yourself up to fail.

It would be much better to wait and spend $150 with a strong hand, in position with the initiative.
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05-11-2026 , 01:40 PM
I don't think it's results oriented to say you should consider checking back. I check a lot on these ragged two tone flops, and it doesn't always mean I missed.

To see why this might make sense: try plugging into an equity calculator that allows your opponent to have a wide range. I mean, I just tried one that is top 73% range and we are basically 50/50 with them. Now they're not gonna fold except for their very worst hands...
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05-12-2026 , 02:47 AM
Thanks to all who offered advice.
I have a love/hate relationship with the cash tables. I think that I make moves like this just to relieve the tedium. Although the read on V1was good and maybe the bigger error was the c-bet and in particular the sizing.
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05-12-2026 , 09:54 AM
I think the preflop raise is way too small. I would go to 125. I think anything smaller than 100 is too small.

Flop I would bet 1/3 pot. Fold to jam
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05-12-2026 , 12:45 PM
Hah, was this at Empire, at the far back right table I think I might be V2... seat 7
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05-13-2026 , 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by tedthetwonk
Hah, was this at Empire, at the far back right table I think I might be V2... seat 7
Not at Empire, but out of curiosity what did you have when you jammed
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05-13-2026 , 06:01 PM
Grunch:

PRE - the 3B with AQo doesn't seem terrible. I could see flatting, closing the action. Seems like our 3B size should be larger, like closer to $100-$110. I think that just takes the pot down a lot, and when it doesn't, it still sets up a low enough SPR that we can apply max pressure and / or play a 2-street game post-flop.

FLOP - in a 3BP, I think our c-bet should be smaller, like 1/3 pot, around $55-$60. On a ten-high, two-flush board with all sorts of draws, I'd expect V to have a higher x/r frequency, so we might want to check back with AQ. Not sure if having spades matters much.

As played, seems like we have to fold.
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