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07-07-2016 , 09:41 PM
1/3, new table

Hero opens $15 with AQo utg
Only BB calls (MAWG)
Eff stacks are $300

Flop ($30): KT4ddh
Check, Hero bets $20, V calls

Turn ($70): Ks
V donks $20, Hero ??

Calling seems too weak to me and I don't like giving control of the hand so cheaply to him. Also, it gets pretty transparent that I never have Kx. Also, I'm whiffing river often.
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07-07-2016 , 09:46 PM
Define your image of a middle aged white guy. I think you need a few hands here. I'd fold.

Or just call so he can hit the diamonds.
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07-07-2016 , 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by happyhappy...
Define your image of a middle aged white guy.

Just your typical rec with some clue. Seen him flat $13 raises with stuff like QTs, T9s, etc, nothing out of the ordinary..

Although his turn donk looks weak, I get cautious because of my tight image and start feeling they're either trapping me with a big hand or they won't fold 2 pair if I try bluffing.. I get desperate to empty the clip here but chicken out..
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07-07-2016 , 10:12 PM
Why do you never have a K here? Even an unobservant opponent can figure you for a possible AK or KQ, not to mention TT. Yes, he's less likely to think you have it on the turn, but a raise is going to make him rethink that.

The weak bet could be a K, it could be a bluff with a weak hand or even a diamond draw. I don't like calling because I think we have a good chance to take the hand away and make V surrender his equity. We can put 55 on top (75 total) and put V to the test. If he has a big hand he'll RR and we can safely fold. If he's weak, he'll lay it down. With a diamond he might fold or call, but is very unlikely to 3b bluff.

I expect folds more than 50% of the time. I expect to often win if he calls with a diamond draw that bricks. I don't expect to put any more money in the pot.
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07-07-2016 , 10:46 PM
^ Is there any timing or other tell you'd prevent giving out when raising the turn? Tank raise or snap raise his donk? Announce it by mouth? Raise in slow motion?
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07-08-2016 , 12:58 AM
Nothing unusual. I'd pause a couple of seconds, enough to make it not a snap decision but not enough to make it look like I thought about it much. Then I'd either watch TV or continue any conversation I was in before my action. I'd avoid becoming rigid, but would also avoid interacting with V.

I generally avoid attempting to influence opponents' actions with false tells because properly randomizing is non-trivial and I don't want to end up actually providing useful information.
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07-08-2016 , 09:05 AM
V is only making this play with trips+. Sometimes its ok to fold when your beat.
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07-08-2016 , 09:31 AM
UTG at a 10 man table, I would not raise with AQ off, but I am a conservative player.

For your situation here, I would fold. It was a new table with many hands to be played.
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07-08-2016 , 09:34 AM
Folding for $20 would be bad.
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