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08-19-2015 , 01:16 PM
V is a MAWG who has been running like God. Seems to have a pretty high opinion of his poker skills. Loose pre, randomly aggro post flop. Ex. 6handed V openlimps 87, Nitty guy raises to $10, BB calls, V calls. Flop T92, checked to Nitty guy who bets, BB calls all-in, V calls, Turn Q, V donks out. Other similar examples of random aggression. Does more than his fair share of stabbing at orphan pots. Seemed to always shut it down when the bigger bets come out.

Hero has been chatting with V and the table in general and having a good olītime. Have been opening pots in position, taking down dead money or winning with a c bet on flop.

1/2

4 or 5 handed I forget.

V ($1300) open limps, hero raises TT to $15, blinds fold, V calls

($29.50) Flop: 643

V donks $20, hero calls (planning to raise non 2,5,6,7,spade turns, not sure about a 4 or 3)

(68) Turn: K

V bets $40, hero raises to $130 (if called, plans to take a free showdown unless a T comes on river)

Good line? Better alternatives?

Edit: Donīt think V is capable of triple barrelling.
Edit2: Effective stack $700

Last edited by kookiemonster; 08-19-2015 at 01:33 PM.
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08-19-2015 , 01:28 PM
what is your eff stack?

there is really no reason to raise. If he is drawing and you have the best hand why do you want to take it down now? Also his sets and flopped straights will re-raise anyway.

the King smashes your range and it didn't even slow him down.

tbh I am trying to get to showdown as cheaply as I possibly could in this situation and might even fold later if he bets big.
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08-19-2015 , 01:51 PM
I'm not thrilled with it, mainly because he was passive in his other hand until he hit -- and now he's betting into you. He's only calling/raising better and folding worse.
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08-19-2015 , 01:54 PM
I don't see what you're trying to accomplish. Why not just raise the flop? Half the deck shuts you down on the turn.
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08-19-2015 , 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by bobman0330
I don't see what you're trying to accomplish. Why not just raise the flop? Half the deck shuts you down on the turn.
Doesnīt he have a lot of spades, spades+straightdraw/possible overcard,65,76,A2,A5,A7,55,77--similar trash that has a lot of outs against us?

Raising the flop is good too, but I figure it might be better to wait until the turn where our equity can improve by a lot. Plus V is a lot less likely to get out of line after we raise the turn, vs the flop, so we should be able to take a free showdown if we want.
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08-19-2015 , 02:18 PM
Mixed feelings about the play.

Pros: I think he'll call the turn with a wide range of hands that you beat (flushes, pair+straight draw, 99/88/77), and this is the last opportunity to extract money if you don't think he'll barrel river.

Cons: He can very easily have you crushed already, and he can also very easily 3-bet as a semibluff. Your hand looks like top pair or top pair+flush draw (AKss/KQss/KJss). You're both deep enough that he can decide to blast you off that king. Or he can call and then jam brick rivers, if he thinks you'll fold one pair to that sort of play.

Your betting line makes it appear as though your hand is capped. If this guy has even an intuitive understanding of capped ranges, then I think you should just call turn. If he's just a luckbox button-clicker, I like the line.
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08-19-2015 , 02:28 PM
I disagree about raising the flop. We have a medium strength hand with a high spr. I am not looking to inflate the pot with a medium pair, we have showdown value so we should be trying to get there as least costly as possible (if at all).
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08-19-2015 , 04:58 PM
If I'm flatting flop, then I'm flatting this turn as well. This deep, we shouldn't be trying to inflate the pot with a hand that isn't all that strong. Raising turn doesn't really accomplish much, and could lead to us getting blown off the best hand if V 3-bets.
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