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06-24-2015 , 09:05 PM
$1/$2 NL with $5 straddle..
In a straddle pot villain in EP limps for $5 folds to Hero in HJ with AsAd. Hero raises to $15. Everyone folds to villain who calls. $38 pot pre. Flop is 8c9s3d. Villain checks Hero bets $26. Villain calls. Turn is 9c. Villain checks Hero bets #35 and is all in. Villain calls. River is Qd Villain turns over JhTh for straight and drags pot.

Questions

Should Hero have bet more on flop to price out the draw? What should Hero have bet?

Mathematically villain was getting 2.46 to call the flop bet and 3.5 to call the turn bet. Were villains calls right?

Did Hero just get unlucky?
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06-24-2015 , 09:08 PM
My turn to suggest that you do not post results until the community can respond to your post. It skews our answers and focuses on results, not optimal play.
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06-24-2015 , 09:15 PM
Normally don't post results. Doesn't make an iota of difference in this case. The only possible problem is that you probably should have bet more preflop. With the straddle and a limper make it $20/$25.

After that villain played bad and got lucky. Villain's flop call is terrible because you don't have enough to pay off even if he does make his straight. On the turn the 9 isn't a good card for you but you don't have enough money left to give up AA.
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06-24-2015 , 09:18 PM
With effective stacks so shallow we simply aren't folding on this board ever. If anything, I might bet the flop smaller simply because we are so shallow (it will be easy to play for stacks) and I want to be called by the weaker portion of his range. However, a cbet of $26 is ok. Shove on the turn is pretty standard.

If I had lost this pot I probably would have forgotten about it the next day it is so standard. When the 9 pairs I expect to lose this pot a decent percentage of the time regardless. "That's poker"
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06-24-2015 , 09:21 PM
Thanks this was my first post. Appreciate the feedback
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06-24-2015 , 11:13 PM
Raise more pre.

You didn't make any cardinal errors because you're short stacked, but this would've stung if you were deep.

With the straddle to $5 this effectively becomes a 2/5 game with short stacks -- you have of $76 according to your HH ($15 + $26 + $35 all-in). When V limps in EP, you are giving decent odds for V to crack your aces by only raising to $15. Direct pot odds are 2.8 to 1 or 26.3%. JT has 21.72% equity vs. AA.

At a live game, my standard raise in MP-HJ will be 4-5 BB + 1 per limper. In this case, I would have raised to $25 (or $30). When V calls, there will be $58 (or $68) in the pot and I would have $51 (or $46) behind, setting up an automatic shove on the flop.

When you have only 38BB (in this case only 15BB effective with the straddle) and wake up with AA, V's range becomes completely irrelevant. Just GII pre flop or on the flop.

Last edited by LittlePud; 06-24-2015 at 11:24 PM.
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06-25-2015 , 03:18 AM
You got 100% of your money in good. After tons of experience, this fact will make you happy. I know it doesn't help how you feel right now.

As of now you need to work on your mental game, starting with accepting suckouts. There's no quick answer for this, it will be a journey.

Losing with AA is one of the most frustrating experiences for newer players. This is because of the emotional spike of looking down and FINALLY seeing that prized possession and getting ready for a big win, getting tons of action, and then a big letdown of losing all your money. That experience of going from the highest high and expectation of a win and getting flung into the lowest low with the reality of a loss is what makes it so emotionally impactful.

Eventually you want to see AA as just one of the 169 possible hands and play according to its best strategy without making it the emotional highlight of your session.

Fun fact: You're more likely to be dealt AA than AK suited.

Last edited by Thorware; 06-25-2015 at 03:26 AM.
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