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AA in 3 bet pot. 150 BB deep AA in 3 bet pot. 150 BB deep

11-04-2015 , 12:05 AM
hero is 23 year old reg known to be pretty loose i also play aggressive. V in this hand( also a reg, commented that ive been playing tighter than usual). i have 350$ ive taken down most pots without showing i only showed one hand where i had KK, but took it down on the flop.

V- he is also a young reg, he knows what hes doing not an idiot. me and him were talking and joking around. he folded a the nut flush on a paired board when i had 10s full of aces and there was Aon the board. on my river all in for 100$( all he had left), he been running kinda ****ty today. BB 250ish

V2- he is an old caribbean guy hes bad. table was talking about how my bets get no respect and he was calling me with 62o and all kinds of ****.$250

V2 raises UTG to 12( really hasnt raised much) get to me in MP i make it 30 with AA ( sizing probably too small) V1 snap calls from the BB. and V2 calls.

flop 9K9 pot-90
checks to me i bet 50 V1 calls and V2 calls

turn is 5 pot-240
V1 just ships 195 v2 folds hero?????
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11-04-2015 , 12:28 AM
If he's really solid and is up to making big folds, then his range calling off a pf 3 bet is going to be pretty tight.

Doubt anything with a 9 calls your pf 3 bet unless it's 99, but even that isn't in my 3bet calling range out of the blinds at 150bb.

I don't see many credible diamond semi bluff combos that would call a 3 bet and peel the flop on a BDFD with no pair+draw possibilities.

could be TPTK with AK.

KK is a possibility.

I don't think I could find the fold button here.

Last edited by MirrorMirror; 11-04-2015 at 12:46 AM.
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11-04-2015 , 12:42 AM
not folding
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11-04-2015 , 12:43 AM
I could see him calling with only 88-QQ there.
99/quads very unlikely, could well be shoving just based on the pot size and his stack.

I'd call.
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11-04-2015 , 02:34 AM
Just slightly bigger on the 3b! pre-flop, more towards $35-38ish for some extra value. You said V1 is a reg, but what is his pre-flop calling tendencies especially to a 3b? Since you assume that he is a solid player, his range should not include many 9x except maybe possibly (T9s, 98s) and given that those hands make up just 8 combos. He could show up with KQ or AK(despite that we do block that hand) so I would make the call.
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11-04-2015 , 03:05 AM
I haven't seen him actually call much 3 bets but the problem is we have history together and I play everyday so mostly everyone knows that I'm pretty loose and I don't have to have a premium hand to 3 bet, which is why I've been tighter my past few sessions.
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11-04-2015 , 03:07 AM
When he just snap called my 3 bet I thought he might have a big hand like AK, JJ, QQ or KK
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11-04-2015 , 03:09 AM
Not a high five the dealer spot but I'm not folding
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11-04-2015 , 03:43 AM
Yea I wasn't to happy but I called it off he had 10d9d I didn't think he would call me so light.
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11-04-2015 , 04:04 AM
Yikes that is light! But now you have more info on him
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11-04-2015 , 12:17 PM
Call
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11-04-2015 , 02:46 PM
Super easy call. This post belongs in the bad beat section.
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11-04-2015 , 02:56 PM
Why is everyone saying easy call? What does villain think we have when we 3-bet pre and bet flop? And for that matter what does he think V2 has!? He's lead jamming into a 3-bet pot with two opponents who both called flop. That doesn't SCREAM strength to anyone else? Maybe I'm just a huge nit fish, but I'm probably folding.
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11-04-2015 , 04:01 PM
Never fold
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11-04-2015 , 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by persianpunisher
Why is everyone saying easy call? What does villain think we have when we 3-bet pre and bet flop? And for that matter what does he think V2 has!? He's lead jamming into a 3-bet pot with two opponents who both called flop. That doesn't SCREAM strength to anyone else? Maybe I'm just a huge nit fish, but I'm probably folding.
Well we only bet $50 into $90 on the flop he could easily surmise we were turning QQ-TT into a bluff on the flop hoping to take the pot down cheaply and now he is shoving his "nuts" AK on the turn because the board got scary with the flush draw (and gutterballs).

If he has T9 here then he also has JT which would (should) play it the same way.

Easy call with AA.
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11-04-2015 , 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by wj94
Not a high five the dealer spot but I'm not folding
this
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11-04-2015 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnyBuz
If he has T9 here then he also has JT which would (should) play it the same way.

Easy call with AA.
You think Villain would float OOP with a BD flush draw and a gutter with one more opponent left to act behind OTF? Then punt it off OTT thinking he can get both V2 and hero to fold the best hand?
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11-04-2015 , 08:18 PM
Have to know what the v will call preflop oop to a 3bet.
On the flop is where things get intresting, after you cbet on a pretty good board for aces. What range are you putting both villains on Kx?
Can i see one of them having a 9x here?
As for the turn what are you putting v on after he flats the flop and shoves the turn? I can see a 9x being his range a lot as well as AK but then why didnt he check/raise with AK/KQ if he is going to ship the turn?
Am i folding here? Probably not just villians range is a lot wide pre than your previously thought.
Calling oop with sc's may want you to rethink about what villains ranges are!
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11-04-2015 , 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by persianpunisher
You think Villain would float OOP with a BD flush draw and a gutter with one more opponent left to act behind OTF? Then punt it off OTT thinking he can get both V2 and hero to fold the best hand?
Well he did just cold call a 3! for 15x from OOP while only 125 BB's deep even though UTG raiser still has to act and could re-pop it again and force him out, didn't he?

OP's read was obviously off as he should never have 9x in his hand when he needs $600 effective to set mine with a pocket pair and ideally more since he will be OOP.

It was still a horribly -EV call, even if he stacks Hero every time he hits trips. And if he is making extremely -EV preflop calls, then we can infer that he is also making terrible post flop mistakes which makes stacking off here with AA absolutely fine.
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11-04-2015 , 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Raeed561

V2 raises UTG to 12( really hasnt raised much) get to me in MP i make it 30 with AA ( sizing probably too small) V1 snap calls from the BB. and V2 calls.
This looks like the biggest problem.

You are raising $18 giving Villain 2 great set mining odds. Even Villain 1, has decent odds to set mine in the BB ($28).

The great thing about live poker is that most players don't differentiate a raise of $45 vs $30. They are calling all preflop.

Villain 1 got lucky and there is no way you can get away from your hand. Paired boards are dreams when you have overpairs. I would pop it up bigger preflop. Don't try to get tricky. The UTG Villain will call any amount and you would prefer to deny odds to small pp for set mines.
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11-04-2015 , 10:28 PM
The fact that people were saying that my raises get no respect and I have history with V I thought he would ship KQ or AK for sure. I went for the smaller size because I wanted to get called I think people do differentiate between 30 and 45$ I really think at 40+ I wouldn't get any action, I was playing pretty tight this session
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11-04-2015 , 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Raeed561
The fact that people were saying that my raises get no respect and I have history with V I thought he would ship KQ or AK for sure. I went for the smaller size because I wanted to get called I think people do differentiate between 30 and 45$ I really think at 40+ I wouldn't get any action, I was playing pretty tight this session
Yeah maybe but given the stack depth i would be more incline to bet 35-45ish.
Yeah maybe BB still calls, but given your reads OR is generally always calling your raise.
While you do want to play a big hand with AA/KK sometimes people have nothing and other times they have something.
If your bets are getting no respect then bet what you think will OR will call with, BB calling over 10% of his stack with SC's is something you cant see happening a lot of the time
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