Hi all,

1/3 live. Hero has done well as short stack and should have tight aggressive image. Hero is playing $325. V is presumed to be a fish (MAWG). In an earlier hand against a winning LAG who raised pre, V donked, got raised by LAG on 8-6-6hh flop, called, and folded to a second barrel on a 4d turn.

Folded to hero in CO; raises to $12 with Ac9d. BTN calls, V in SB calls, BB calls. Pot $41.

Flop: 7c-8c-4h. V donks $15, BB folds, hero raises to $65 planning on barreling any club, 6, and possibly A.

Thanks,
DT

Real bad dude. You think you’re making money setting up some hail mary 3x superbluff stackoff against some fish? Pre whatever fold flop. Tighten up the screws.

Is is that bad? V's donk of $15 into $40 is probably a "feeler bet" designed to "see where I'm at" with his weak pair. I'll tell him I have an overpair, and if he calls anyway I have good barreling cards on the turn; if I don't improve, I can always shut down. Overly aggressive, or exploitative?

At first my reaction was the bet from villain looks really weak, but a lot of his range is going to be draws that he will not fold. So the bet could easily just be an attempt to see the turn for a cheap price. Villain could also hit on an overcard on the turn so there could be lots of cards that will improve villain on the turn, and that will make a bluff more risky.

Board is too drawish for this. If you get called your plan is what, just keep bombing the turn? Check? What if you check and he bets river?

Yea it is that bad. Make a hand and value bet fish and don’t do stuff like this.

This +1000. 1/3 is mostly a pure value game (with c-betting the exception). Rarely, if ever, is it a game to run multi-street bluffs.

yea its not a good idea to blow the pot against fish,in addition I can say you have a player on a bind,his random hand can also be a huge some of percent time.

How do you know it's a "feeler bet"? You said he's a presumed fish so you really don't have any reads. In a multiway pot its common for players to lead out with made hands.

check fold the flop.

Lol, this is always what happens to me preflop as well. I have a super tight image, I have the perfect situation to open light, and I still go 4+ ways to the flop and OOP to boot, lol. Which has mostly led me to a simple conclusion: I really don't have to ever get out-of-line preflop, because all the small pots I steal are likely not going to be make up for the times I'm not successful. So I think open folding here is perfectly fine.

Even though it looks like we're attempting to take advantage of what villain did in the previous hand (donk, call a raise, and fold to a turn bet), things aren't necessarily the same here as he's donking into 3 opponents (much stronger) and he could easily have a hand / draw that he's not going to fold on the flop/turn, plus we still have the Button behind us. I just fold.

Gwe'remakingpokertoodifficult,imoG

PF raise is fine.
Flop raise is pretty spewy. I might call the flop bet with the BD straight and flush outs, but even that feels meh with the BTN still left to act.

Seems good to me. He shouldn’t feel really comfortable continuing with many non nut flush draws, and we block the NFD. We pick up equity on a lot of turns to keep barreling. We have a good chance of winning the pot right now.