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9T flops trips, line check 1/2 9T flops trips, line check 1/2

10-18-2013 , 08:38 PM
V: Somewhat tight. Raises maybe 15% pre flop, almost always in LP. Covers hero.

Hero: Should have a solid image. Tight, but very aggressive. I've been getting hit with the deck today. I've been here less than 2 hours and I've had AK x2, AQs x1, JJ x2, KK, AA and a few other good hands. So I've been opening a lot. Most of these haven't gone to showdown though so I might just look super loose and raising all the time. $300

Pre:
4 limps around the table
Hero completes in the SB with T9.
BB checks

Flop ($11):
939
Hero leads $10
lots of folds
V on the BTN calls

Turn ($28): Q
Hero leads $20
V calls

River ($68): 2
Hero checks

At this point villains range is mostly diamond draws and 9 I would think? I feel like his 9's are roughly split between beating me and not beating me. So I get more value trying to let him bluff with diamonds. Any opinions?
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10-18-2013 , 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by iraisetoomuch
V:
Pre:
4 limps around the table
Hero completes in the SB with T9.
BB checks

Flop ($11):
939
Hero leads $10
lots of folds
V on the BTN calls
You got to play very careful this type of hand. When you play "one-card-hand" you got to keep the pot small. But of course many will not agree with what I'm saying. So, I'm not getting involved debating this one.
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10-18-2013 , 10:53 PM
mmm.. idk, I'm kinda in the boat with betting, probably pretty small. But if he's really that tight then I could definitely hear some arguments for checking considering his range would have mostly 9x or better, and maybe some Ax FDs at that point. But he might have floated the flop with some overs, JK, Q10s or small PP cause you have been very active. Since we are OOP I definitely don't hate the idea of a check/call now that I think about it because he may fire missed draws as you said and he may d. definitely bet Qx, he possibly has a weaker 9 even, 98, 79s. I'm actually content with how you played the hand, although if you had thrown out a modest bet I would say the same. Although I would still probably bet for value.
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10-19-2013 , 12:06 AM
Nah, bet for value again.

I'd make it quite small, maybe 35.

He has tons of pocket pairs 44-88. It's possible the Q made him a pair if he did have the Qd. Yes he has some air, and I doubt he has a better hand often since he didn't raise flop or turn. But I'm sure there's value in a mid/small river bet but I have no idea why hoping to c/c to snap a bluff would be more profitable.
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10-19-2013 , 11:05 AM
Grunch:

I prob b/f like $40. You want value from the PP part of his range that will always check this river back. The value you lose betting by not giving his missed draws a chance to bluff is far less than the value that you get from his PPs, imo. Also, if he has a bigger nine, he will still prob just flat here, though he likely would have bet more if you checked. This gives you some ability to pot control.

Check-calling isn't awful, though.
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10-19-2013 , 11:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Octavian
You got to play very careful this type of hand. When you play "one-card-hand" you got to keep the pot small. But of course many will not agree with what I'm saying. So, I'm not getting involved debating this one.
Just curious, what does "one-card-hand" mean?

Are you saying that hero obviously has a 9? Because I agree, and it's very exploitable, especially with a weak 9 at that.

I'm voting c/f river as played. Soooo obvious we have a 9, villain would be a moron to bet anything we beat otr.

Betting is a bit optimistic, V has zero pp's by the river. Maybe we can expect him to make a bad call with Qxdd but it's too thin imo.


Tbh I hate leading with weak trips on these boards, but if you're against droolers who will call down with FDs and pocket pairs (lol) and only raise with a 9 then it's fine. Like what do you want to call you? Just flush draws (with equity) and hands that beat you.

Last edited by jambre; 10-19-2013 at 11:22 AM.
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10-19-2013 , 02:13 PM
Easy b/f for reasons Garick stated. $40 sounds perfect.
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10-19-2013 , 02:27 PM
What pp's do you think a 15% opener on the button is calling down 3 streets with in a limped pot vs obv trips? What pp's do you think he can even have?
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10-19-2013 , 11:51 PM
He raises 15%. That doesn't tell us much about his limping or his calling range. Lots of LLSNL players are non-believers on paired boards. I've got three streets from 55 on similar boards before.
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10-20-2013 , 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by thelonggrind
30 turn, 60 river.
No.

But bet the river.
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