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76o on the Button (I didnt fold pre) 76o on the Button (I didnt fold pre)

02-03-2020 , 03:44 PM
SB - Hippie looking dude who spilled coffee all over the guy next to him as he sat down. Looks to be about 55-60, listening to music, talking a lot laughing at his own bad jokes. Has been on a heater sitting on about 700 now. Opens very small seems to call with a lot of draws and a lot of week hands. Had been hitting most draws.

MP - 55 year old white male. Clean cut, playing tight. Came from a broken game folded a few hands then went to dinner. Has not been at table more that a few rotations and has played maybe one or 2 hands.

Weak 1/2 game in upstate NY. Hero has been at the game for about 4 hours and it is a LIMP fest. Mostly opening for 12 or 15 to punish limpers and taking down a lot of small pots free. This hand I am the button and we have about 4 limps in the pot so I decide to come along with 76 off sure. BB raises to $7, MP calls, I call. I am effective stack of $280 (fold Pre? Raise Pre?)

Flop is 86K rainbow. ($26) BB checks, MP checks, I check behind

Turn 6, ($25) brings a heart draw. BB leads for $15, MP raises to $45.

Hero?
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02-03-2020 , 04:17 PM
I don't have a problem with you limping this otb.

Trying to be unbiased, but judging by the post, sounds like you ran into 88 or A6. I shouldn't think this way, but I'm not going broke in a limped pot based on action. Almost no value hands you beat that play this way.
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02-03-2020 , 05:50 PM
Well I’m not folding on the turn yet. You clearly can’t 3b/f OTT so I guess I’m calling? Shoving seems like an overplay.
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02-03-2020 , 08:37 PM
i think both calling and evaluating river and folding are pretty close.

Given MP description, his raising range here is pretty strong, probably a better 6x, i dont see him doing this with a weaker hand, he only has maybe one hand that you beat, 97hh. So folding here isnt that bad i guess.
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02-03-2020 , 09:58 PM
I love the fact that you open with a precise (and hilarious) description of the SB -- who is not a factor in this hand. I do the exact same thing in loose low-stakes games. I put too much energy into playing anthropologist on the goofier characters. That leaves me vulnerable to being unaware of the true Villains that can stack me.

In this case, your description of Villain and his belligerent overbet makes it likely that you're beat. Plus the implied odds are horrible. If he's ahead of you, the river will get way costlier. If he's missed, there's no guarantee you get much more $$ from him.

I'd reluctantly let it go.
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02-03-2020 , 10:46 PM
I'm leaning fold. Yes, you hit trips - but what worse hands is a tight V raising OTT?

I don't think a tight V plays *any* 6x worse than yours. So you're not beating any 6x.

Does he do this as a bluff? Highly doubtful, since you described him as a tight player *and* he's likely not bluffing SB (who sounds like he calls a lot).

The only reason I *might* consider calling this is that a very tight guy just doesn't have many 6x in the first place and I'll occasionally see them pull this raise with AK/KQ to end the hand there/protect against draws. Has he ever raised preflop before, or just limp/called?

Admittedly, in game I'd have a hard time immediately folding. But if I did call, I'm folding river unimproved.
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02-05-2020 , 02:25 PM
Results: Def feel like I played this hand wrong and the comments seem to agree.
Spoiler:
Hero tanks. At the time I thought the only hands I am really worried about for MP are 88 and a suited A6. I think a lot of KQ/KJ maybe even AK are in his range. SB could have a better 6 but his range is very wide even with a $7 open. I want to raise but then I cant fold. If I call there are almost no river cards I want to see. Tanking for like a min then I (??spazz??) jam like 200 on top. SB snap calls, MP thinks for 30 seconds and folds. SB tables AA. River is a king and MP looks pissed and mutters that he folded a king. We scoop. Felt like I got super lucky after the fact. I guess what they say is true about 1/2 - you win off of your opponents mistakes. I may have played the hand bad but SB played his AA horrendously.
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02-05-2020 , 02:40 PM
I thought people were crazy for wanting to fold, that raise can be a lot of hands, especially when the PFR checks the flop + a tight player doesn't have many 6's in his range to begin with. I also think 2 pairs and sets bet this flop most of the time. I do think going all in is overplaying, as you mostly only get called by better, and there's a small chance someone was trapping on the flop or has A6 or something.
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