500 deep 200nl, QQ BVB
01-07-2011
, 06:34 PM
Villain is a winning regular running at 16/13/5. My 9-handed stats are around 21/12/3 at the deep tables (don't hate). Villain might know that I am shot taking.
Are we shoving the river for value here?
Do people prefer a different line preflop without much of a 3 and 4betting dynamic? How about a raise on the flop?
Thanks
Poker Stars $200.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos
BTN: $535.80
SB: $518.35
Hero (BB): $557.90
UTG: $693.65
CO: $504.60
Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BB with Q
Q
3 folds, SB raises to $5, Hero raises to $17, SB raises to $40, Hero calls $23
Flop: ($80.00) 4 T
9 (2 players)
SB bets $48.00, Hero calls $48
Turn: ($176.00) 4 (2 players)
SB bets $130.00, Hero calls $130
River: ($436.00) 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks
Are we shoving the river for value here?
Do people prefer a different line preflop without much of a 3 and 4betting dynamic? How about a raise on the flop?
Thanks
Poker Stars $200.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos
BTN: $535.80
SB: $518.35
Hero (BB): $557.90
UTG: $693.65
CO: $504.60
Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BB with Q
Q3 folds, SB raises to $5, Hero raises to $17, SB raises to $40, Hero calls $23
Flop: ($80.00) 4
T 9 (2 players)SB bets $48.00, Hero calls $48
Turn: ($176.00) 4
(2 players)SB bets $130.00, Hero calls $130
River: ($436.00) 6
(2 players)SB checks, Hero checks
01-07-2011
, 08:05 PM
01-07-2011
, 08:47 PM
Quote:
Are we shoving the river for value here?
no.
Do people prefer a different line preflop without much of a 3 and 4betting dynamic?
no not really...your stats are relatively passive and i feel 5b here is out of line with your image unless you intend to turn your hand into a semi bluff preflop.
How about a raise on the flop?
I like a raise on the flop for sure, but if you're taking a shot you need to protect your stack and avoid high variance moves. it really depends on how you expect him to play his draws and if he is willing to jam 200 bb or w.e over your raise (prob not) with a draw....he's also probably going to peel a lot on this board depending on your raise size, and you may not be willing to commit a significant portion of your stack in this type of turn situation assuming a blank falls, since a moderate portion of his range does have you pretty crushed. i think your range here looks like overpairs and straight draws with the slight possibility of a weak made hand. I personally interpret this as a over pair to over pair situation and i don't see any value on the river at all in shoving or value betting and getting raised all in.
Thanks
Poker Stars $200.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos
BTN: $535.80
SB: $518.35
Hero (BB): $557.90
UTG: $693.65
CO: $504.60
Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BB with Q Q
3 folds, SB raises to $5, Hero raises to $17, SB raises to $40, Hero calls $23
Flop: ($80.00) 4 T 9 (2 players)
SB bets $48.00, Hero calls $48
Turn: ($176.00) 4 (2 players)
SB bets $130.00, Hero calls $130
River: ($436.00) 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks
no.
Do people prefer a different line preflop without much of a 3 and 4betting dynamic?
no not really...your stats are relatively passive and i feel 5b here is out of line with your image unless you intend to turn your hand into a semi bluff preflop.
How about a raise on the flop?
I like a raise on the flop for sure, but if you're taking a shot you need to protect your stack and avoid high variance moves. it really depends on how you expect him to play his draws and if he is willing to jam 200 bb or w.e over your raise (prob not) with a draw....he's also probably going to peel a lot on this board depending on your raise size, and you may not be willing to commit a significant portion of your stack in this type of turn situation assuming a blank falls, since a moderate portion of his range does have you pretty crushed. i think your range here looks like overpairs and straight draws with the slight possibility of a weak made hand. I personally interpret this as a over pair to over pair situation and i don't see any value on the river at all in shoving or value betting and getting raised all in.
Thanks
Poker Stars $200.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos
BTN: $535.80
SB: $518.35
Hero (BB): $557.90
UTG: $693.65
CO: $504.60
Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BB with Q
Q3 folds, SB raises to $5, Hero raises to $17, SB raises to $40, Hero calls $23
Flop: ($80.00) 4
T 9 (2 players)SB bets $48.00, Hero calls $48
Turn: ($176.00) 4
(2 players)SB bets $130.00, Hero calls $130
River: ($436.00) 6
(2 players)SB checks, Hero checks