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5/5 spot vs a 3! laggy  + unknown 5/5 spot vs a 3! laggy  + unknown

06-13-2016 , 08:39 PM
UTG unknown 1100 - has a slightly derranged look to him.

Hero utg +1 covers- playing a TAG game mostly only showing down winners- has noticed CO 3! too much and stacked off with 77 in a CO vs BB spot where there were a couple limps, i raised to 35 w/77, sb called, then 3! lag 3! to 150, i shoved, sb folded and Lag called it off w/KQo and i won. Lag limp 3! a decent amount fairly wide and squeezes often wide up until recently. Villain has realized that and has noticeably tightened up because he realizes what he has been doing hasn't been working.I doubt he will 3! me as lightly as he has in the past because he knows ill rip it in. He also is in the game for about 2kish today. Before all of this villain had a stack of 1500 after squeezing huge with T9cc, flopping a flush mw. He proceeded to 6 bet shove pre 300 bbs CO v BB with no 3! dynamic that i saw vs the tightest player at the table and of course ran his KK into AA saying that if he was deeper he couldve folded but at this depth it wasnt possible.

CO Crazy3! bad lag 600 - just plays way too many hands,3! way too often, and FPS's hard often.

UTG straddles, hero raises to 35 w/ JJ, Crazy Lag 3! to 115, UTG calls saying "gamble gamble" and turns and winks at hero before hero acts. Hero should _______?
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06-13-2016 , 09:41 PM
At this point, I'm more worried about UTG.
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06-14-2016 , 03:41 AM
Utg's cold call is definitely a concern. If you don't think the lagtard will 3bet you light then call and see a flop. Won't be easy playing postflop though. If it comes 8-high and we face action we're gonna hate life.

Other option is to make it $400 and either hope you take it down or get the lagtard to shove and fold out utg.
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06-14-2016 , 03:58 AM
How is UTG Unknown? Did he really buy in for exactly 1100? Anyways against these guys I would just 4bet to exactly what the bad lag has and don't fold.
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06-14-2016 , 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by BirdsallSa
How is UTG Unknown? Did he really buy in for exactly 1100? Anyways against these guys I would just 4bet to exactly what the bad lag has and don't fold.
UTG came from a must move.
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06-14-2016 , 05:58 AM
If you flat, you're hating life on all flops with A/K, and probably can't even represent AA/KK if a Q comes -- because why are you just flatting when you shoved earlier with 77? There's UTG table-talking what I'd read as strong, but your slightly deranged descriptor seems to hint that he's going to showdown with a... questionable 3! call. If you raise, you get some fold equity in return for a 5! and all-in possibilities and lose out on a "cheap" flop, but you might not have a better chance of taking the pot down than right now. Tough spot.

This wasn't helpful, and I apologize.
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06-14-2016 , 09:37 AM
I don't love turning JJ into a 4! bluff with no blockers to premium hands. You don't have the odds to set mine against the CO, but you do against UTG. His cold-call is super strong. I assume he's unfamiliar with CO's crazy 3! antics.

I'd see a flop here and call. You can hope to bink a J. You can check, expect CO to bet and see how UTG acts twice. I might play back at the CO if I think he missed and UTG folds to his cbet.
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06-14-2016 , 11:48 PM
Hate using live reads to determine hand ranges, but his speech worries me.

If he saw me shove w/ the 77 I think I'm more inclined to flat and see a flop. Even a straddle can pick up a hand.
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06-15-2016 , 12:53 AM
Calling is fine. If UTG is smart, he should realize you still have AA in your range with CO in the hand. Even if he isn't, you're still in a spot where you should have plenty of info about both ranges as most flops go ck, ck to the CO.
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06-20-2016 , 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by tensor0910
Hate using live reads to determine hand ranges, but his speech worries me.

If he saw me shove w/ the 77 I think I'm more inclined to flat and see a flop. Even a straddle can pick up a hand.
straddler did not see the 77 hand
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