5/5

1k effective


Villian is a "pro" who I would suspect is a small ish winner at this stake- he's 50 something, euro, generally kind of loose passive, tho I've seen him shift how active he is based on game conditions... I've seen him fold overpairs as well


We are 6 handed, massive fish and is calling atc preflop on a 300 stack straddles

Villian opens hijack to 30- his standard raise on straddled pot


I flat button w A10 hh


Fish in straddle calls


Flop 7h8h9d (pot 100)

Straddle checks, villian confidently bets 100, I assume straddle is never ever folding based on how bad he is


We?


If we raise how much? If we flat I am concerned he folds when we get there, he should be good enough to know that his overpair isn't great on this board and I think he's capable of b/f

What sizing gets max FE?

To clarify does fish on straddle have 300 stack? And you and Villain have 1000effective stacks?

If this is the case I think you should raise here. Realise this will eliminate fish, but there will be better spots to pick him off. His stack is so small anyway esp with straddle pots. He has shown no strength either so far in this hand. You have a massive draw against Villain and you are IP. Raise to 300 and call a shove. If he flats, v unlikely he will lead turn so take a free card on a brick turn. Did a quick bit of analysis on ranges you are about 55% vs. a range of {77+, JTs, 98s, 87s}, I think Villain is likely to jam any of these hands.

Final thing, what is Villains opening range here as he is effectively UTG? Realise you want to play vs fish, but AT can get you in a lot of trouble...

Yah straddle has 300, we both have 1k

You want the guy with atc to come along to inflate the pot. You want to draw as cheaply as possible, and we dont wanna blow are selfs of a draw, I flat.

^^ I don't think we have a great deal of FE once good villain leads for pot.

What is he likely to do on a lot of turns OP? That is kind of the real question

Call flop with the intention of maybe raising a double barrel on a blank turn if fish folds flop. If fish calls flop, then calling a turn barrel to entice fish to continue with inferior draws sounds optimal.

I think I am raising here to set up stacks for jam on turn (so ~$300) & Jamming just about every turn. I think its odd to say the fish in the straddle is never folding... I mean he can have ATC as you said & I imagine he folds complete air. We have 50% Equity vs Villains Value range ... giving him like pairs 77+ JT & 98/87 so with the $$ in pot getting it in seems fine. You said villain can fold over pairs ... so its feasible w can get him off TT+.

I'm raising to about 300 hoping to get it on. You can take fishes money later

This and this seem best.

Blindly raising is dumb if villain will still stack off on later streets.

Grunch.

I am never flatting with a hand that light. I am either three-betting or folding depending on game conditions. If you think that the V is good enough to iso a weak player (or opens wide), then I am three-betting. Otherwise, I am just going to fold.

As played, I am calling with the fish still to act behind us. I want to keep in all of his weaker draws. If we were head-up, I might raise a pretty good amount to force the V into a push-fold type situation.

I don't think you need to worry about fe since it is not a head-up pot.

What turn/ river cards is villain readily stacking off on later streets??

I think we need to proceed here with playing vs villain optimally who is showing a ton of strength and inflating a pot fast .... I mean I am really at a loss to why we are auto assuming the fish flats the $100 here like every time (Seems like he has plenty of folds in his range). Plus I mean if he is really as bad as we are led to believe, he is likely calling AI with most the hands he is calling the $100... We basically want to get the $$ in now vs Villains range and try & get the 1k in as a 1. Flip with plenty over lay or 2. Get the $$ in as a ~60/40 favorite vs over pairs.

I really don't see why we would want to play our hand so passively on this flop just bc a fish is behind w $300 who may or may not call.

My point is the OP didn't give us enough of a read to really answer the question.

fwiw I think flatting pre is ~100% the right play

+1

What is your plan if we completely whiff the flop then?

Fold ?

Exactly. There is not enough money in the pot to make this profitable to play fit-or-fold. There is a short-stacked fish in the pot that limits our creative options, so I think the best bet is to take the initiative pre-flop.

3betting pf will give us the keys to the car. It forces V to make a hand on the flop, which he will miss more than 2/3rd's of the time. By flatting it, it keeps V in the driver's seat and we have to either hit the flop or play creative.

If we knew at least 5 people will see the flop, then I would flat.