$1700 eff. $5/$5 . Loose guy opens EP. 3 flats.


Flop 8s7d2s. Loose guy bets $50-85. I flat 54ss CO. Reg check raises to $200 in sb.

Folds to me and we are hu.

Reg is very competent. Former pro. He can hand read and make big folds. Value bets thin. He either has two pair+ or a Combo FD or occasionally nut FD. I’m not winning stacks vs set if I blink flush. He’ll fold turn with two pair if I turn flush. He knows I’m Competent too.

On flop I have 32% equity against his range. But obvious there’s still a turn and river.


Do u ever fold flop or is this always a call of his flop check raise?

dream flop imo, id raise
if he's got 2 overs with a fd you still have outs to pair or hit your straight
folding isn't an option imo

Might 3b pre. I’d peel at what seems like a pretty decent price, IP, and closing action. Let’s see a turn and see what he does with a lean toward finding only a single steeet of thin value and a showdown if we improve.

So you won't win stacks if your flush hits and might in fact lose a lot more if he has a higher flush draw?

So really you only have 3 outs.
I'd fold flop.

I would call or raise. This is the flop for your hand that you played for. I think V probably has a set or 2 pair he is protecting. Don't be afraid of the monsters under the bed, if it is a cooler, its a cooler.

fold pre
raise flop

Your draws are both so easily dominated that you've got to raise the flop to force higher flush and straight draws to face two bets cold so that you're isolated to just a handful of dominating combo draws.

As played, it's pretty gross, especially this deep. I'd just peel as it's really not worth it to pour another $1600 into the pot in spot where you'll be good like 35% of the time, and TAG regs at these stakes rarely x/r/f. We're getting pretty much direct odds to see one card against a range of sets (11 outs with 45 cards in the deck, and paying $150 to win $585), and with us having position, we should be in better shape to outplay him mixed range vs mixed range for the rest of our stacks.

For a competent player the way you describe yourself, should know what reverse implied odds means. Since when 54s drawing to the low end of the straight or a baby flush has got 32% equity? against a competent pro?

Limping with 54s gonna burn your money. I know you are a very enthusiastic player the way you describe yourself and the situation. You'll hit the 6, make your little straight, shove in and be nutted by T9. Now what?

3bet pre.
As played, I can find a fold on this flop with heavy RIO. Or are you going to call down 2 streets when you hit a 5 OTT and the river bricks?

I´m folding pre.
More player descriptions would be nice, but "loose guy" might be somewhat sticky with hands he opens. mixing in a 3bet with 45s once in a while is fine ofc, but you shouldn´t overdo it.

I don't want to call at any point in this hand. It's raise or fold PF and OTF. Personally I'd fold PF. Yeah the opener is loose, but it's an EP raise with 3 calls in front of you (or maybe it's 2 calls plus your call, I can't tell based on how you worded the post). By calling in a pot this multi-way, you really need to crush the flop. OTF, you crushed it about as much as you cold reasonably hope for, but you have no idea if any of your draws are live. I think you either take the low risk option and fold (which is a difficult thing to do after you call PF with 54s and get this flop), or you raise here to isolate or to take the pot down now.

Obviously you always have more equity against just one opponent, but with this specific hand I also think your hand becomes much stronger in general against just one opponent because you eliminate the risk of your draws being dominated in multiple spots. If you end up against a higher FD then you have 3 straight outs and 6 pair outs (unless V specifically has A7s), and if you're against a made hand then both your straight and flush outs are good. It's just a hand that I don't want to call to bink a draw against multiple opponents with so much RIO.

As played with the action described, you could probably call his c/r now that you're HU and look to hit the turn. It's just hard to say given how vague you've described the action and the size of pot. If you're looking at having to call $115 into something like $385 and are getting 3.5/1, then I think you can profitably peel one off.

Fold pre.

You are ~350 bbs deep in a multi-way pot with a big time RIO hand. No thank you.