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02-09-2014 , 01:43 AM

RyanAA44

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$2/5 $200-1000 buy in

Hero BB (~1150)
Been at the table for awhile, people are coming and going. First time playing at a casino as opposed to card room in awhile, first time playing 2/5 outside of my main 5/5. Anyway. My image doesn't really mean much

Villain UTG (~400)
Asian. Looks like he has an understanding of the game. Sat down around 45 minutes ago. Has played a couple hands but limping and calling a lot.

OTTH
Villain (UTG) limps, CO limps, SB folds, hero (BB) checks

Flop (~$15) 893r
Hero leads out 10 ?, UTG calls, rest fold.

Turn (~$35) A
Hero leads out 30, UTG min raises to 60, hero calls ?

River (~$155) 6
Hero checks, villain makes it 85
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02-09-2014 , 05:23 AM

RyanAA44

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Sorry that I didn't repeat I had 89o in the actual post. And I meant to add in that hero called. Results irrelevant

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02-09-2014 , 05:47 AM

rival4653

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I can't find many hands you beat unfortunately. Maybe A10 AJ. From the info you gave villain sounds passive. Did he bet fast or hesitate on the turn raise. Fast or slow on the river?

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02-09-2014 , 09:18 AM

Ineeda2

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I'd bet like 15 or 20 otf. His turn bet is a little odd and quite strong. Theres pretty much nothing in his range that you can beat at this point.So I'd like to say I would fold. But I'm not that good so I'd call turn. C/f river

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02-09-2014 , 10:10 AM

trucdouf

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I can't find many hands we beat either. I see a lot of Ax in Vs range here. AQ+ I feel he's mostly raising PF, any other A after continuing the flop feels like a 2P.

On the other hand we are getting close to 3:1 odds OTR, with no further action. It's close but I find a hero call and muck "nice hand" if he's got the better 2P.

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02-09-2014 , 01:06 PM

CWhite4

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Call. We lose to A3 A8 A9 33 that limped utg. I really seems like he has AK AQ that peeled the flop. I think we are good 1/4 or whatever

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02-09-2014 , 01:29 PM

Professor4Poker

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you are certainly good often enough to call
rest of the hand looks good

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02-09-2014 , 01:33 PM

CallMeVernon

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Originally Posted by RyanAA44

Semi-grunch: if I were really on my A-game, I'd fold turn. Either the ace helped him, and he now has aces up, or else he's hoping the ace helped you and he has a set.

Every time I do not fold the turn in this spot I lose money.

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02-09-2014 , 01:37 PM

darkestfog

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I can't find hands we beat either. The most likely hands to me are A9/A8/A3 suited with BD flush draw OTF. Call flop, minraise turn, bet river is a nutty line. AA is another possibility. Maybe he limped to go for a limp/reraise.

It's possible he thought you were on a straight draw, but then why would he bet on the river? To get value from a 6? You'd have to really stretch it to figure out a hand you can beat, unless this guy doesn't play logically. If this was a 1/2 game I'd probably call against most, but I'd fold in your spot.

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02-09-2014 , 02:45 PM

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wconnell

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I think you certainly can't fold, and should just call. He probably limped with Ax maybe had the three on the flop, and now has two pair. Could also have slowplayed 33. But I think there is also a good chance that with you being the BB and betting out the flop, that he is just trying to use the A to scare you out of the pot.

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02-09-2014 , 03:16 PM

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Shwauby

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I call. I think V can float flop and play an A like this.

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02-09-2014 , 03:19 PM

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SABR42

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Bet $15 on the flop.

Fold river.

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02-09-2014 , 03:27 PM

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Shwauby

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What value hands is V raising turn? A8 A9 A3?

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02-09-2014 , 03:56 PM

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RyanAA44

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Thanks for all replies.
I called as I stated in my response to my thread seeing as how I couldn't edit it anymore since I had done so too many times.
Hindsight, I should've folded river since minraise is a fishy bet. Unsure of how to bet their bigger hands they min raise as to not scare me off the pot and get me to call and hopefully raise.
A different approach to this hand would be check/call the turn to induce bluffs, but then we are almost always calling a river bet, depending on the size of it. Thoughts?

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02-09-2014 , 04:02 PM

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CallMeVernon

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Originally Posted by RyanAA44

A different approach to this hand would be check/call the turn to induce bluffs, but then we are almost always calling a river bet, depending on the size of it. Thoughts?

This is awful. You have to bet the turn against guys like this because they'll have lots of straight draws they can call with (or, if he had a hand like QJ, checking lets him take a free card when he might have folded to a turn bet). I like the turn sizing too. I think you played this hand fine (except flop could have been an extra $5 like SABR said) until you got raised on the turn. Then it is time to ask how he could possibly be raising for value with a hand you beat. And the answer is, it's almost impossible.

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02-09-2014 , 04:05 PM

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RyanAA44

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Originally Posted by Shwauby

I call. I think V can float flop and play an A like this.

I thought this but I feel he would just call my turn with an AT-AK type hand cause they are scared to play with these hands that "always lose", IMO. But ya I called like a jamoke.

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