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5/10: river hero call or turn hand into bluff? 5/10: river hero call or turn hand into bluff?

11-10-2016 , 08:26 PM
eff 3000ish

V is really LAG. V limped raise hero twice, hero folded both times with marginal hands like AJo.

However, I feel he is more on the lagtard side. Play too many hands and gets overly aggressive.

One hand UTG (loose passive) limp, V raise to 40 in MP. HJ calls

Hero 3bet with 57s on BTN to 145. UTG cold called, V 4bet to 405. Everyone folds, V showed 78s.

hero plays TAG, but has been running good so far. Hero has been actively raising and betting and winning some pots without many showdown.

V might view hero as laggy.

This hand
V limped MP. Hero raise to 50 with 94dd(yeah, I know it was too loose but I might just wanna play V IP)


Flop 774 r (115)

V checks, hero bets 50, V calls.

Turn Kh r(215)
check check

River 9c no flush on board (215)

V checks, Hero bets 100, V raise to 550

V limped call range has many small pocket pair. I was trying to betting for thin value.

Hero has the blockers to many almost all full house. V never has KK, K7 here.

V could be doing this with hand with 78o, 67o, 79o (he would raise all of suited connector hands pre), 44. That's it. I feel V might c/r with some 7x on the flop as his image is so bad and he knows that I could float his c/r range wide IP.

V should be capable of doing that with 56o, 68o, may be some A high.


Since we block boats so hard, is it better just go over the top to turn our hand into bluff as we can credibly rep KK, 99?
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11-11-2016 , 05:09 AM
Villain has limp re-raised 2x and you suspect he is doing it light, so you iso the 94dd??
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11-11-2016 , 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by twalf
Villain has limp re-raised 2x and you suspect he is doing it light, so you iso the 94dd??

Yeah. I mean pre is bad whatsoever.

He limped raised twice from EP.

He just can't do it too often.


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11-11-2016 , 05:13 PM
Yea, I'd fold pre; seems pretty bad. I'd also probably check back river [EDIT: Though the more I think about it, the better betting sounds; maybe a little smaller though ------- unless he will check/raise river too much.]

After the river check/raise, you're talking about shoving to try to get him to fold trip 7's? From the little in this thread he looks like a maniac so I don't know that, that is a good idea even if we do assume he never has a full house.
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11-11-2016 , 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Lego05
Yea, I'd fold pre; seems pretty bad. I'd also probably check back river [EDIT: Though the more I think about it, the better betting sounds; maybe a little smaller though ------- unless he will check/raise river too much.]



After the river check/raise, you're talking about shoving to try to get him to fold trip 7's? From the little in this thread he looks like a maniac so I don't know that, that is a good idea even if we do assume he never has a full house.

I might be little tilted by V so that I was trying to Iso him IP every hand.

I know it sounds crazy to make a maniac fold 7x. I don't have enough history to support it.

Would you fold or call AP?


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11-11-2016 , 05:55 PM
Barrel turn. River is a x back since your hand looks like 1010-QQ, and I doubt he pays off with worse PP.

I'd call river. He's polarized to air and 7x, and I dont think you make money by trying to get someone to fold trips
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11-11-2016 , 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Minatorr
Barrel turn. River is a x back since your hand looks like 1010-QQ, and I doubt he pays off with worse PP.

I'd call river. He's polarized to air and 7x, and I dont think you make money by trying to get someone to fold trips
are we betting turn for value or bluff?
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11-12-2016 , 04:23 AM
Bluff. You can also get called by worse anyway. It's a good card for your range.

Last edited by Minatorr; 11-12-2016 at 04:32 AM.
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11-12-2016 , 07:20 AM
wait you mean hero call or fold, right?

Did you win or lose? I was gonna bet Arizona this week, but if you won I suppose I'll fire 49ers .
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11-18-2016 , 07:22 AM
Playing poop hands IP against the spot is what the game is all about. This hand as played is an easy fold OTR, but more importantly it's an easy check back. In my experience, rec lagtard will be doing this with as light as KQo/KJo for value.

Or call and show lagtard who's king lagtard.
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11-18-2016 , 07:27 AM
Also, what's the logic in iso'ing with hands like 94dd and mucking hands like AJo IP against 3 bets?
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11-18-2016 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by n_gambol_n_future
Also, what's the logic in iso'ing with hands like 94dd and mucking hands like AJo IP against 3 bets?
AJo was the first hand he limped EP re-raise me. I usually gave credit to unknown of limp-raise line live and at that moment I don't have a good reads on him.

After we played a while, I realized that he was not that good. I feel I have edge over him and I have the best position. I know 94dd was a too loose for iso as I have already said.
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11-18-2016 , 04:14 PM
Trying to 9 high him like a boss?
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