Villain is a nit. Don't really have any relevant history from previous sessions. However, I did three barrell 1010 on an A106ss board with turn and river bricking out. He Plays relatively straight forward.

5-10 with 25 button straddlel

9 handed at the moment

Hero in SB opens to 80 with K10cc

Villain calls in MP. Everyone else folds.

Flop ($195) 10J4cc. Hero leads for 115 or 120. Villain calls without much dileberation.

Turn ($425) 4. Hero Check. Villain Checks.

River ($425) 7c. Hero leads for $200. Villain almost immediately goes in for a raise (scared me wtf). After counting out chips he makes it $800 total.

Thoughts???? I really dont think villain ever bluffs here. I know my hand is underrepped but river raise makes it tough to call. I dont know if villain would value raise the Q high flush. Could he possibly have QKo?

I will add that villain never has a boat imo. Ever

Grunch

You didn't post stack sizes.

Wow, weird spot... I would probably ditch K10s from the SB with 25 OTB at most tables. As played, I'm not sure whether or not you should barrel the turn or not because of the missing stacks. Seems like you would have great equity against everything but JJ and 10s, both of which would most likely raise the flop (I hope).

As played, his raise is basically repping the nut flush or a boat, but the only flush he should show up with here is AcQc if you describe him as a nit. I don't see him showing up with a boat here unless he just played his hand weird. I would only fold against the tightest of players, but maybe this is one of them.

I don't get it. Mp limped in for 25, button checked, and you made 80 out of the small blind??? If that's right, this is horrible. Why not complete the SB?

BTN straddled to $25, Hero is in the SB and is first to act, He raised and MP called.

oh ok, never played in such a game

You said Villain is a nit... What do you mean? Does that apply to Pre? What's his range (in your opinion) for calling you preflop? In my mind, a nit can't show up on the river with Q9cc or 98cc but can easily show up with Axcc and boats. Also said nit will rarely bluff in this spot, which would lead me to believe this is (begrudgingly) a fold.

I also hate checking the turn against a nit, especially if you think he can't have flopped a set (which I assume is the case, since you think he can't have a boat on the river). You're rarely ever good on the turn and the hands you do beat have equity you'd prefer they can't realize. Added bonus, nits are likely to find excuses to fold TP provided stacks are deep enough to allow for lots of firing and if you bet big enough you can also push out NFDs that will cause this exact nonsense to happen on the river when a club does peel off.

Pre is a fold unless everyone is really deep.

We Were like 3k deep. I think opening if fine to balance my range.

I really think he can only have 2 hands. QKo or Axcc Anyone disagree? And i realize he has 0 boats in his range.

Wow, what a train wreck of a hand! I suppose I am the poster child for loose preflop action, but the raise pre seems pretty bad. You have a pretty strong hand on the turn, not sure why didn't bet there, but as played I think I am going to fold unless I have some indication that villian could either be devaluing himself with 89/small flush or is capable of a 'big' bluff. Would have been nice to have a little more info in the hand by betting turn with the intent to shut down on blank rivers as villian will probably check back missed draws and 1 pair hands.

I don't think you really mean that KTs is "balancing" you range preflop (if anything it's more "merging" but neither of those words really apply here), not that I think it's definitively a bad open that deep depending on the table, your image, blah blah.

I think you probably need to believe you've got a decent skill advantage to be opening that hand effectively UTG with eff stacks for this hand reduced substantially by the straddle (though, fwiw, I think people overrate that against bad/live players since they typically think in terms of total dollars and/or original stakes and fail to factor straddles into their decision making).

That said, without wanting to run the math right now, if you think Villain can only have KQo or Axcc and that he can have all remaining combos on both, I think this probably would have to be a call.

However, I think you're probably misguided to think he's bluffing all his combos of KQo if he even gets here like this with them, whereas he's obviously raising 100% of his combos of Axcc and would probably show up with all of them as played given description. I also think assuming he can't have a boat is pretty bad unless you have a very specific player-dependent read that you haven't explained here (you seem confident, but I still don't understand why). Checking back a full house on the turn here is like bad/marginal live player 101 in my experience.

Results: Tanked for 5 minutes and ended up folding face up. For some reason i dont mind spewing a little but paying off a nit for 600 would make me ***** angry. He has bluffed me one time before but it was in a smaller pot where I folded face up and he showed. This timeHe didnt show which makes me think he was nutted. Even though im 90% sure he had Axcc im still tilting. meh

Why would you ever fold face up?

He had it bro. Good fold, but bet the turn.

Idk if I fold. If he's a capable villain he could be doing this with the A of clubs and a J or something. If I'm viewed as a nit (I wish LOL) Im doing the same move with AcJx all day. Especially if I know u have a fold button

don't fold face up or discuss what a big fold you are making.

If we are folding KTcc here, whats our range for opening in this spot?

What is the minimum for opening?

tighter, and noone will know the difference.

hero, is he a nit pre and post?
I think of nits as not running bluffs post really except very good spots, maybe.