Line check / thoughts appreciated.

5/10 NL Borgata.

V1 (covers) likes to splash around but is otherwise pretty standard. He's a bit on the loose passive side but doesn't get out of line and tends to have strong hands in big pots.

V2 (covers) is a gigantic fish, he doesn't really factor into the hand but I include his tendencies in order to understand table dynamics - basically he limps into a lot of pots, loves to overbet if he's in position (plays much more standard OOP) with everything from air to top pair hands to monsters - in 4-way limped pots he almost always will fire 75 on flop and 300 on turn (and likes to follow up with 1k river bets), so there has been a lot of multiway pots with people trying to play hands with him. If he gets isolated preflop he also has a tendency to donk 2x pot into the pfr on the flop and follow up with a huge turn bet. Facing aggression he plays pretty standard-ish though, so it's always best to let him drive the betting if you want to build a pot. He way overvalues hands and has rebought several times; he doesn't seem to care about money and is splashing around a lot. fwiw I saw him playing the 10/25 later and he definitely played it all through the night.

V3 (1.9k) plays pretty loose preflop but somewhat TAGgish postflop, although he definitely has shown up with funky hands to win pots. He understands the value of hands so won't overplay overpair-type hands, although he is very capable of pushing his semi-bluff hands (and sets of course) if he thinks he has fold equity.

Hero (1.6k) is playing pretty nitTAG and hasn't been out of line or shown down any hands yet. The hand is pretty early in the session.

Preflop: V2 limps in EP, V3 limps MP, I overlimp 55, one more limper, SB completes, V1 checks BB.

Flop (60) - 569dd, 6 is the non-diamond.

V1 leads for 25, V2 calls, V3 raises to 100, I flat the 100 cold, folds to V1 who makes it 575 pretty fast, V2 folds, V3 nearly snap ships 1.9k, it's on me and I fold.

Thoughts? Basically I believe they have a range of combo draws / straights / sets - if I know that no one ever has an overset it's probably a snap call but I tend to feel that I am likely to see one other set here very often... I feel like I would call 66 in this spot but not 55.

looks like a good fold with v3 snap shipping....I dont really see many combo draws outside of A6dd, but I dont think v3 snap ships 2 pair combos, prob tanks, and even if he did we're still flipping.......I think the more interesting point is should we flat the flop raise or 3b it - think 3bing is gonna be better then flatting.

Looks like you're up against at least 1 monster, maybe 2. AT BEST you're getting slightly over 2 to 1 to chase a fullhouse, but there's a possibility you're oversetted. It's pretty much neutral/0EV to chase in your best case scenario (both opps have 87), but there's a strong possibility you're in worse shape than you know. Pretty easy fold.

A more fun problem - What would you do if V2 snap 4bet shipped, if V1 3bet and V3 folded (or even if both V1 and V3 folded)?

id expect v2 to have the weakest range of everyone involved in this mess of a hand, but we still got the guy making it 575 to worry about.....id expect v2 to have more 78/combo draws/dd/etc in his range then sets given his flat.

I assumed from the title it would just be a ****** bitching about getting coolered, but was bored and no threads with better titles. I was pleasantly surprised as this is actually kinda a sick spot imo and I'm pretty sure it's a good fold. Against a range of sets, straights, and combo draws you're not doing all that awesome so even if they ship every combo draw in their ranges it still might be a fold.

Good fold. I probably 3bet the flop.

+1, thought to myself "this oughta be good" but then it actually was

good fold

Amen to that.

Thanks for comments.

I think the other main line suggested is to cold 3b flop which is certainly the standard play and definitely good. There were certain considerations in my mind that led me to flat although they are certainly debatable - I definitely did not expect this action after me.

I'm glad that the fold was considered fine - I really rarely get in these spots ever live and would hate to make the wrong decisions in these spots, because even though they are rare, they are still huge pots.

Hope he doesn't fold 99

This is very close, I would definitely not fold 99 or 66 fwiw.

Just think they had the two hands you actually want to get it in vs and it's still -EV to call. If one of them has 66 or 99 (66 much more likely due to pf) then you're basically dead. Good fold.

Also this is a limped pot... There's almost no way if you call when it folds to you on the flop that at least one person won't have the straight..

Also for those who are snapping with 99 and 66, double check your odds there when u get it in vs these two hands in the OP, vs two straights, and vs straight and 66 and tell me if you would call. U have just under 30% vs these two hands as it's the same as 66 here, and when someone else has a set you're 20% b/c they take your boat outs. If V3 always has the straight it's almost always a fold here and V3 if he's competent at all always has a straight here snap jamming 200 bbs in a limped pot on the flop. It actually makes a lot of sense that he just jammed like that, he probably thought he was freerolling someone else.

Ya your right 99 is borderline, but v3's snap shipping range is only the nuts? I mean I'm not thrilled with 99 in this spot, but I feel like v3 could have 55/66/maybe Ad6d and think he has a monster once the 575 raise comes out and jam it in....I'd really need to know a ton about the villan to assume hes only jamming a straight. Furthermore the guy making it 575 could raise/fold - its unlikely but I've seen live "pros" with absurd sizing and do terrible things - I mean if the 575 guy ever folds we should definitely get it in.......Think I'd really need to know both villans real well to fold 99 here.

v3 is taggish postflop. He isn't shipping 200bb in an unraised multiway pot that has all kinds of action without the straight.

I don't follow - so he'd fold 99 when villan 1 makes it 575? v1 didn't even have a straight. I don't think v3 or 99.9% of 5/10 players in that spot would fold 66/99 - you can make a case for 55/two pair combos/etc, but I think villan 3 would play 99 the same way.

I don't understand how someone can play tight post flop