Game is loosening up quite a bit. I've been 3betting a lot and getting folds when I want and having the goods when I have to show down. Very first hand I played I lost a full buy in (1000 max game) when I turned trips A kicker and villain flopped a straight with 36.

Rebought for max and have chipped up to 2200 to start this hand. Same villain who stacked me first hand of my night has me covered. Gambler type will call very light and try to hit flop plays his premiums pretty face up.

I am on the button and have KQss. Straddle is on. 3 limps to me. I make it 125. Folds back to villain who makes it 350. This player will ALWAYS raise his premiums the first time around especially with the straddle on. Now I've been relentlessly raising my button the past hour or so so I feel his limp 3betting range here is small to mid pocket pairs, suited Aces, J10 KJ type hands. I feel I am definitely not dominated here.

I 4bet to 700. He laughs, asks how much I have left (I count it out about 1500) and then he calls.

Flop 3A4 Pot is about 1455.

He checks. What's my line here?

given the fact that you are always raising your button, he could easily have limped so you could raise your button and he could re raise.

jam and hope he doesn't have an A

That thought entered my mind, although I've never seen him limp reraise anything bigger than 10s in the 100 + hours I've played with the guy. I think if he had a big hand he would lead after the 2 limpers, one of which is a complete fish rich calling station, and expect me to 3bet (which I would of).

In his range I completely ruled out big pocket pairs FWIW to you guys.

Villain is a "gambler type who calls very light." With that said, I don't necessarily like the smallish 4-bet preflop since you know he's not folding. Plus, you aren't raising for value since your hand isn't that strong to begin with. Not sure if you expect him to fold to you ever here.

If you shove on the flop (can only shove or check due to stack sizes), he will call with any A or maybe even a medium PP. Yeah you beat the random J10s/KJs he has but as played, I would check. Just awkward spot to be in since he's unlikely to fold any hand that beats yours, and since you can't really make a half-pot bet due to your remaining stack size.

If you feel you definitely aren't dominated, why not just call? You can also shove certain boards with bare K-high over his cbet as well.

In general against stationy gambler types like these you really don't want to be inflating the pot preflop with a wide range, it's much preferable to just see a ton of flops in position and keep stacks semi-deep.

why jam when you can bet 400? and get same result?

op just flat the 3bet if your view of villains range is correct, then you have a great hand to have in position against him

we already 4bet to 700 and have a psb left. if you wanna bet 400 to induce a jam, that's fine too

You're putting yourself in an incredibly awkward and difficult spot - ie the exact one you're in on this exact board.

Your image is probably loose aggressive with what you've said about history so far. Nobody's gonna give you credit for a big hand - min 4betting is pretty bad in this spot, no one's gonna fold after 3betting.

*I think your preflop read is bad. Limp reraising can be strength. Yes, it's possible villain is just countering your preflop aggression, but it's possible he has a strong hand also. People typically don't limp RR light with hands like Axs, KJ, JTs, etc.

Now stacks are really awkward on the flop - you only have 1 psb left, and you missed. You can rep the Axx board, but with what sizing? A shove folds no value hands - a small bet like 400 is probably a little better, but you probably have to shutdown when called.

I really have no idea how to play your hand right now if we get to the turn.

Preflop, I really feel flatting w/position >> shoving if we really think it's a race >>>>>>>> min 4betting.

Ok so everyone feels I should flat the 3 bet. I'm not folding here though preflop correct? Folding would be weak in my opinion. Anyways I checked flop.

Turn brought a J

Villain checks again.

i like the 4bet. kqs is the ideal hand to widen your 4bet range.
cbet the flop. after check flop its hard to credibly ship the turn

I really like the small betsize, 350-400.

After checking flop i'd just pussy out and check it down

fine bet 700 so there is no perceived fold equity. I just don't see why we need to jam.

When I'm 4betting without a made hand (like king high) I like my 4bets to have at least some amount of fold equity. From the sounds of it, this villain does not care about money (?) and thus I don't see the reason to inflate the pot pre - this simply reduces our edge post flop (assuming we think we have one).

This guy needs to be calling this 4bet with KJ,QJ, QT type of hands to really make it worthwhile in my eyes.

4 bet pre is an epic disaster. You realize that you cannot fold if he shoves over your 4 bet? Fold, flat or shove pre is better than this.

^ Its good for image though. Live nits would explode if they saw a guy 4b/call KQss

pot has 1435-rake, we have 1450 left. what's wrong with jamming?

edit: I guess it comes down to which one looks stronger, jamming or betting 700. i don't think it makes much of a difference.

we don't have to risk it all in order to achieve the same result. plus the fact that if he calls we prolly are drawing close to dead.

ooooooooooooo. for some reason i thought he had KQhh.

uhhhhh I guess b/f 700. not following through with a flop cbet here sucks imo

As for the 4 bet pre me and this guy have a bit of meta going on. Last time he called my huge 3 bet preflop with 89 in position on me and flopped trips. He knows I know we play each other light but this might be the first 4 bet hand of significance. In game with the dynamics going on at the time KQss was the nuts preflop lol. And if he did shove I can still fold or look him up remember what he had and reload.

Definitely missed a cbet there on the flop I need to hammer that

If you can really cap him pf like you did (seems too convenient IMO), 4-bet slightly bigger.

I don't hate the 4 bet, but prefer a flat in position. You're deep enough, and should be able to play well post flop on the flops you miss.

The only reason I don't like a 4 bet as much as a flat, is that often when someone tries one of these spazz out plays, where they've grown tired of your act and have decided to take a stand, they're not in the mood to fold. So, you're basically 4 betting a hand as a bluff, hoping for a fold against a guy who's not in the mood, when in reality it's doing well enough against his range that's it's not necessary to bluff, but more than good enough to continue.

why hasnt anybody else commented on this yet? pre is an abortion