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10-18-2016 , 07:58 AM
V 1 = Solid Tag/Lag who is used to these limits. Haven't seen him too much around this casino but the guy is solid. V bets light, knows when to put pressure, etc etc. Has a good understanding of the game from what I've seen so far.

V 2 = Fun rec who usually plays 1/3-2/5 but has been playing 5/10 more this past week. He VPIPs around 50% of hands and calls 3bets IP and OOP with a wide range. He doesnt like to fold TPGK and plays his draws very aggressively. He is a very tricky player and balances some strong hands in his limp/call range aswell to overcome all his weak holdings. Its generally tough to put him on a hand.

Hero = Solid image so far. Usually play 2/5 but have been playing 5/10 since begining of the month. V2 knows this, I dont know about V1. V2 respects Heros game alot and sees Hero as always having it. We have a decent amount of history together and V2 USUALLY doesnt go too out of hand vs Hero.

OTTH - $1.7k Eff

Preflop ($15)
V1 $25 BTN, Hero QQ $85, V2 overcall SB, BTN call

Flop ($255): T97
Hero (?) check, V2 check, V1 bets $150, Hero (?) call, V2 raises $500, V1 calls, Hero ???

I think its fair to assume V1 has capped his range flatting the raise on this super draw heavy board to a 1 pair hand (which I beat most likely), or to a draw. V2 could have a wide range here. He probably has all J8s combos, JQs, T9s, 77, 99, TT, JJ, 98s, AJss, AQss, KQss,KJss.

Whats our play?? I think c/c flop is fairly standard in this spot with our hand, anyone think otherwise?
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10-18-2016 , 08:50 AM
you mean V2 over call on BB?

C/C is fine on this wet board especially against two players and one of them will push hard with draws.

Over call from player type like V2, it is usually PP and SC, which he smashed this board. I would fold to V2s raise


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10-18-2016 , 09:11 AM
yeah sorry. V2 overcall BB
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10-18-2016 , 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by keybattle
you mean V2 over call on BB?

C/C is fine on this wet board especially against two players and one of them will push hard with draws.

Over call from player type like V2, it is usually PP and SC, which he smashed this board. I would fold to V2s raise


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He overcalls much wider, I ve seen him call Q8ss in a similar spot pre.
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10-18-2016 , 09:36 AM
To calculate how much % we need assuming we shove and V2 calls.

Is it 1565:4035 (total pot) and therefore we need 28% or do we only take into consideration 1565:2470 and we need 40%?
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10-18-2016 , 10:05 AM
I would 3 bet larger (100) and cbet flop, why is checking std?

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10-18-2016 , 02:54 PM
You could x whole range here otf
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10-18-2016 , 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ebet33
You could x whole range here otf
+1
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10-18-2016 , 05:40 PM
Can you remind effective stack?

V2 over calls oop : how wide can he be here??
U are describing to continue OOP vs 2 LAG who calls wide 3bet pre and u are on a wetboard.

against described players and range you have very well broken down here, your hand cannot really stand pressure OTT and so many scary cards there (obviously Qc can be a good card with evetual RIO?) , , so u need a 2 to 5 no spades to be "comfy" if you are not already behind. That means 3/4 of the Deck are scary on this specific board? all other cards improve hard the ranges of 2 vilains?

AP except if I am 6-700 effective (kind of committed) I Might be willing to gamble. but more it s a weak fold but still a fold.

How to do it another way? Preflop +1 on 3bet to 100-110 here to shorten range and mitigate OOP handicap
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10-19-2016 , 12:57 AM
I would 3bet to 120 pre. I would check this flop and call the bet from v1 then fold the flop after v2 c/r and v1 flats.
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10-19-2016 , 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ebet33
You could x whole range here otf
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Originally Posted by Avaritia
+1
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Originally Posted by twalf
I would 3bet to 120 pre. I would check this flop and call the bet from v1 then fold the flop after v2 c/r and v1 flats.
I agree and thats what I did.
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10-19-2016 , 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by armor32
I would 3 bet larger (100) and cbet flop, why is checking std?

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think of their ranges on this board.
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