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400NL: Turned monster draw on paired board again passive villain who starts betting.

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02-14-2009 , 01:11 AM

ranka

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Villain is calling station, 45/0/0.83 -134 hands.

Poker Stars $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: $574.00
SB: $334.00
BB: $400.00
UTG: $480.00
UTG+1: $528.10
MP1: $394.00
Hero (MP2): $581.00
CO: $565.15

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is MP2 with Q

UTG calls $4, 2 folds, Hero raises to $16, 4 folds, UTG calls $12

Flop: ($38.00) K

(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $28, UTG calls $28

Turn: ($94.00) T

(2 players)
UTG bets $80, Hero ????

Pot: $174 and villain have $356 left, we cover him.

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02-14-2009 , 02:20 AM

Deanglow

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I don't really see a reason to raise

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02-14-2009 , 08:07 AM

ranka

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Can u give me villains hand range?

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02-14-2009 , 10:20 AM

13_Xerxes

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I fold. I have 2 outs.

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02-14-2009 , 11:29 AM

Deanglow

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Originally Posted by 13_Xerxes

I fold. I have 2 outs.

Don't forget about 2 jacks imo.

And I don't think his hand range has a lot of boats in it

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02-14-2009 , 12:06 PM

Renton

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i would call

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02-14-2009 , 02:17 PM

ranka

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Originally Posted by Deanglow

I don't really see a reason to raise

Actually I think raise is spew because very passive villain starts raising. Probably we don't have fold equity and also his minimum hand is K, most of the times it's trips or better. So we don't have more than 38% equity.

And I am between call and fold.

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02-14-2009 , 03:51 PM

DoubleFly

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Originally Posted by Deanglow

Don't forget about 2 jacks imo.

And I don't think his hand range has a lot of boats in it

A J maynot be an out. Tbh, if he had a boat, I think he bets smaller on the turn, so I lean towards calling. But it's close.

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02-14-2009 , 09:11 PM

NutsInYoEye

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When I'm in spew mode I raise and call it off or simply just push and justify it by declaring villain a monkey when he calls me with less than a boat.

When I'm in semi-competent mode I'd probably call and re-evaluate on river or fold. Reverse implied odds suck too much IMO. I don't think you're getting paid off enough by worse hands when 4-to-a-straight or another J comes on river or you make your hand and still end up ****ed. His limp-call PF is making it too hard for me to put him on a narrow enough range to be confident in my river play unless one of 2 cards come.

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02-15-2009 , 02:19 AM

#10

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hey, i actually agree with nutsinyoeye.

i'm not even sure calling this is good against described villain for reason nuts stated.

i probably fold turn.

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