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02-23-2009 , 02:20 AM

notontilt09

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Taking 400nl shot so I don't really have stats/reads, but villain is Ryan Daut, who I assume plays solid.

Open A

from UTG+1 to $16 and Daut flats, blinds fold.

Flop: A 4 4

I bet $24, Daut calls.

Turn: J

I check here to induce bluffs from all his floats, nothing much else in his pre-flatting range that we're behind on this turn besides 44/JJ.

Daut bets $52, I call.

River: 8

I make nut flush, but am not going to get value from really anything, but I HAVE NUT FLUSH, so I bet $80, and Daut shoves for $300ish more.

Hero: ???

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02-23-2009 , 05:14 AM

SirRaisealot

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instasnap, your line looks so weak and the only hands that beat you are 44,JJ, maybe AA or A4s(unlikely). He might as well do this with AJ, 4x, weaker flushes, air...

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02-23-2009 , 08:02 AM

hard2tel

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Originally Posted by SirRaisealot

instasnap, your line looks so weak and the only hands that beat you are 44,JJ, maybe AA or A4s(unlikely). He might as well do this with AJ, 4x, weaker flushes, air...

no way he's doing this with AJ. 4x isn't in his range pre. QTdd T9dd is possible i guess but that's reaching. This has to be 44/JJ/88 or air. I don't think i could fold though.

I don't like the river lead.

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02-23-2009 , 11:32 AM

shorn7

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Originally Posted by notontilt09

Taking 400nl shot so I don't really have stats/reads, but villain is Ryan Daut, who I assume plays solid.

Open A

If you fold this, don't ever take a shot again. If you are beat, then it is a cooler. Your hand is so under-repped he cannot put you on what you have. Yes, Daut is solid, capable pro, but a bluff is definitely in his range here. You MUST call.

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02-23-2009 , 12:03 PM

Deanglow

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bet turn and shove the river. It looks a ton like JJ but call anyway because f him thats why

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02-23-2009 , 01:34 PM

novel20

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LOL Daut44 please comment on this hand.

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02-23-2009 , 01:36 PM

SirRaisealot

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Originally Posted by hard2tel

If he thinks OP is bad, then he might be shoving AJ, but yes, it's unlikely. 43s, 45s, maybe even 64s are in his range + some more SCs than just QT and T9, he can float the flop with everything and pick up a flushdraw on the turn.

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02-23-2009 , 01:45 PM

il_martilo

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I beat him into the pot here. If he has 44 fine, whatever. If he 2 outed you, whatever.

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02-23-2009 , 02:00 PM

Renton

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bet turn of course

also it would be helpful (crucial) to know if daut "flatted" in mp or on the button, kinda shocked everyone is giving analysis with such incomplete information

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02-23-2009 , 02:23 PM

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notontilt09

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He flatted in the CO I believe.

Where u at in ATL Renton?

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02-23-2009 , 02:45 PM

#11

Daut44

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mission accomplished

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02-23-2009 , 03:08 PM

#12

Renton

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kennesaw

k so since he called in late position he can have most of the nut hands.

I think you should fold the river because:

a) he can't have a flush (although if somehow he could he definitely should shove here for value since you should never have a flush or a boat)

b) he can't have air

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02-23-2009 , 03:25 PM

#13

notontilt09

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Originally Posted by Daut44

mission accomplished

the legend has arrived. F that turn card

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02-23-2009 , 03:51 PM

#14

Renton

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yeah im beginning to think its you people that are stations and not me thats the nit

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03-04-2009 , 02:22 AM

#15

lastout

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think u got outplayed here by someone who is not on scared money... but its just what i think....

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03-04-2009 , 02:31 AM

#16

sparky999

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u gotta call but your beat a bunch here he prob has quads

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03-04-2009 , 10:22 AM

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Bluegrassplayer

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This is a really bizarre hand. Not sure that I agree with your reasoning for your turn play.

As played though I think this is a fold. Like Renton said, he can't possibly have air here, and I think you're behind his value range.

Having said that I would call here 100%

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03-07-2009 , 07:07 AM

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RosaParks

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Folding is bad as is not betting the turn.

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