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400nl: Interesting pre-flop spot 250bb deep and OOP 400nl: Interesting pre-flop spot 250bb deep and OOP

03-02-2009 , 10:31 AM
Sort of a tricky spot given the stacks. Villain is 17/16 through 250 hands and seems solid. No history between us, and he likely sees me around 14/10.

After he 3-bets me, I can either 4-bet or call. For better or worse, my 4-bet range from UTG is pretty narrow (and even if it wasn't he wouldn't know after only 250 hands together) so 4-betting kind of turns my hand face up, which is not something I'm thrilled about vs a decent player. On the other hand, calling certainly makes my hand more concealed, but playing OOP 250bb deep against a good player doesn't seem all that exciting either.

Any thoughts on an optimal line here?


Full Tilt Poker $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP2: $805.20
CO: $515.60
BTN: $1288.70
SB: $400.00
BB: $138.70
Hero (UTG): $1077.00
UTG+1: $810.00
UTG+2: $423.10
MP1: $800.00

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is UTG with K K
Hero raises to $12, 5 folds, BTN raises to $40, Hero....
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03-02-2009 , 10:47 AM
just call, go on playing on the flop
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03-02-2009 , 11:24 AM
3 bet stats? Most likely calling is best that deep.
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03-02-2009 , 11:53 AM
Yeah, call, check-raise small the flop, get it in, ez game.
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03-02-2009 , 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 13_Xerxes
Yeah, call, check-raise small the flop, get it in, ez game.
so flop comes rainbow babies, we CR and he 3bets flop. are we ever not drawing to 2 outs?
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03-02-2009 , 09:34 PM
We are just flatting PF to keep QQ/JJ on the hand. If you think he got AA, just fold PF oop or set mine.
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03-02-2009 , 10:00 PM
i call for set and wont call it down 3streets if i miss, this deep maybe raising the flop oop for info. agaisnt 17/16 u'll be good a plenty of time if u play it good postflop-depends on a lot things. against a nit i'd call 1 street max pf-aa is just going to be most of his range.
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03-03-2009 , 12:36 AM
anyone like 4 bet folding? and if he just calls check calling 2 streets?
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03-03-2009 , 12:52 AM
i like 4bet folding but i cant come up with good post flop line, noone will be shooting at u 2 streets with QQ... i like setmininng/play flop more... but against someone who u know will be 3b wider this deep, then i dont mind making big 4bet but i dont see how i can play the pot if he flats me IP without giving money to his AA....
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03-03-2009 , 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by sparky999
anyone like 4 bet folding?
this would be effectively turning your hand into a bluff which isnt really necessary, and just compounding your tough decisions when he just flats the 4b.
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