Ive only been grinding live for about 2 months Post BF, and Ive been doing fairly well playing 1/2, 1/3, and 2/5. I recently took to the 5/10 and I am just baffled with the level of play. (.25/.50 grinders would be favorites to kill these games. ainec.)

Hero: $1200
Villain: $1500

First hand I played. 3rd hand I saw at table. No reads, villain is middle-aged man, with a contractor's (motorola?) flip phone.

Villain limps HJ, SB completes, I check BB with T5dd.

Flop: Tc 7h 2d

SB checks. Hero checks. Villain bets $25. SB folds. I call.

Turn: 5c

I check. Villain bets $70. I raise to $235. Villain flats.

River: Ad

Hero?

Since his range is weighted so heavily to J9cc, J8cc, 68cc and other club draws, should I always be C/C? (To induce bluffs by missed draws, and lose min against sets?) I assume he is never flatting my turn C/R with A7, and I assume AT would raise pre. Does he ever just flat my turn C/R with 22 or 77 here? I feel the only hands he might consider paying me off with are A9cc or A8cc...

In other words, wtf is my best play on this river?
& if I decide to lead river, am I always folding to villain's raise/jam?

Unless you think he's a passive station, I dont mind a c/c given the ****ton of gutshots, FDs, OESDs villain could have - and the 'scare effect' that ace might have.. Assuming he doenst know that you c/c this specific river with a very very high frequency once u check..

Is there ever a river where leading is better than C/C?

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non-paint, 8, 9, J, and 6 rivers?

you could always just bet 100 to **** with his draws and get really thin value out of his pair holding hands.

so 3's and 4's are the only rivers I'm leading? I don't understand the difference between a 4 and a Q (based on his perceived, and imo, pretty obvious range)

This is live poker. One of the fundamental rules of live poker is that you need to do your betting yourself. Don't wait for other people to bluff b/c they are unlikely to do so. Value bet thin and expect to get called down by garbage. Unless you have a specific read that an opponent is bluffy or he's on an obvious draw that missed checking to induce bluffs is losing play live. This flop is T72r. IMO villain has a worse T here way too often and will simply check behind.

Barring a read that he is over-aggressive, I would donk the turn. I think he's gonna check back a vast majority of the time here even with his draws since it's a dry board so he's gonna generally give us credit for something when we call the flop.

As played, I'm not that big of a fan of check/call since it lets him check back all his tens that he might call with. Only AT and very occasionally A7 beat us on the river that didn't already beat us and I just don't think he bluffs often after we showed so much strength already. I guess he might be dumb and think the ace is a good card to bluff at but I still think just bet/folding ~$300 here is best.

About tree fiddy. Also, lead flop.

On this river I prefer c/c. I think live players are prone to bluffing here even though it looks bluffy and they can't really win (I can't win with 9-high so I have to bet).

I don't think he has 98 very often.

Also, I think hero is giving villain way too much credit to be firing the flop with complete air and then double barreling a turned club draw.

I think he has a pair a lot here.

should lead flop ... if raised muck whatever .. doesnt matter ... def bet turn w/2 pair (or without ... 2nd pair doesnt really change turn play).... river is a bet-muck here to any decent raise.. . fearing A7 or set ... most rec players will not raise a river without monster .. but if vil had a draw prob would have raised flop or turn ... jmho

the beauty of live poker is that you can bet/fold with impunity because they are never bluff raising you, or raising the river w/out a hand that they percieve as the nuts. you can fold knowing that it's a safe fold almost 100% of the time.
ya, i know, bet/folding is exploitable online.
no one is ever exploiting you live, unless they are another BF refugee.
good times.

Half pot and smile when he calls with 10j or a10. Definite value spot and fairly standard b/f.

this, this, this.

this makes too much sense.
god i hate live poker.

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if you lead river it should be tiny, bc chances are, villain cannot beat a pair of aces and likely will not call with a hand that loses to a pair of aces (don't need to balance against someone you will likely never play again with). at the same time, it is unlikely he will bluff with the line you took. can't really eliminate AT from his range and not sure why you weigh most of his range towards backdoor draws. i like bet / folding but a really tiny-ish amount. as stampler said, you are basically never getting bluffed raised.

This. On flop Lead>C/F>C/C

This is a simple, bet, bet, bet hand in my opinion, online or live...

Old guy probably limped with JJ, lol

This.

"Same bet."

bet river for sure

If you really think draws are a huge part of his range, then check to induce a bluff. I think Tx is the huge portion of his range myself and i bet like whatever i think he will call with. 1/3 up to 1/2 pot.