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10-03-2014 , 02:22 PM
Trying to figure out if my value bet is bad here. So I'm in late position with 34hh. There are 2 limpers in front of me and I limp with about $850 in my stack. Blinds complete and check. Flop 225 rainbow(duece of heart on flop). Sb and bb check. 1 guy bet 20 I call and bb call. Turn 9h. Now bb ck next guy goes all in for 45$ I call and bb raise 150. So I'm thinking wow this guy has a duece at least right?now I've played with the bb quite a few times and he's very tight so I know he's got something good but he's in the blind so he could have literally anything. Anyway I call and the river is the 6c completing my straight. Now the bb leads out for $75. So my question is, is it generally correct to call or raise? I know that a lot of people are going to say it depends but I suppose good players are always looking for spots to get value. Is this that kind of spot?
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10-03-2014 , 02:27 PM
So forgot to say that I raised to 200 on the river and he called. Not going to reveal the results just yet want to get some opinions first
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10-03-2014 , 02:43 PM
Need stacks

Limping with only 2 limpers so far is meh, and more likely to cost you money than for you to win a big pot.

AP, just fold turn.

Last edited by AintNoLimit; 10-03-2014 at 03:10 PM.
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10-03-2014 , 02:48 PM
As played, fold the river for that tiny bet?? No it's clearly either a call or a raise. Against a tight player the bottom of his range for raising the turn would be a 2. Or is he capable of raise bluffing a flush draw there? Doubtful since it's a paired board and he bet way too small on river to be bluffing. Clearly a call or a raise. I feel like he would go bigger with a full house but who knows. I don't know his stack size which matters greatly. I doubt he's folding trips on the river for a raise. I might just call. But on a side note I would probly not draw to a straight or a flush on a paired board in a multiway pot.
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10-03-2014 , 03:53 PM
Effective stacks were 850. He covers me. I know my turn call was a lil bad but that's not my question. My question is specifically, would a good player raise for value in this spot or is it too dangerous and just call?
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10-03-2014 , 04:39 PM
he raised the turn to $150 and then lead $75 into a $400+ pot on the river??? raise the everloving ****e out of that man lol.

personally i'd raise to $200-$250 and pitch it if he ships. sounds like a very tight player not wanting to check back A2 even though he's nervous about your turn call.

only exception would be is if ur read on this guy is that he's so tight he wont call ur raise with worse than a boat here. based on how u played it, i'm guessing u didnt have that read. so ya, raise/fold river.
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10-03-2014 , 06:42 PM
I think doing some studying on implied odds would allow you to make better decisions. Limped pots are not the ones I'm interested in playing 43s with. 43s works best if someone has a strong hand that they aren't going to be able to fold with a bunch of low cards on the board.
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10-03-2014 , 08:55 PM
A raise to $25 looks good pre-flop (provided that you have a good clean image).

The river is V dependent. Sometimes I call, sometimes I raise. FWIW, I don't think this guy is ever bluffing.
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10-03-2014 , 10:17 PM
Ok actually I raised to 200 and he call with 62. I know that there were at least 2 spots during the hand where I played sub optimally ie limping pre and not folding for the 150 but I was really unsure about raising the river for what may have been value verses just calling.
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10-03-2014 , 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TAFFYMAN
Ok actually I raised to 200 and he call with 62. I know that there were at least 2 spots during the hand where I played sub optimally ie limping pre and not folding for the 150 but I was really unsure about raising the river for what may have been value verses just calling.
He would probably post here too on 2+2 about the hand, he says:

The guy raised me on the river with straight, I just called with the 3rd nuts because he could have 55 or 66. Am I losing value here?
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10-04-2014 , 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Seriouspoker
He would probably post here too on 2+2 about the hand, he says:

The guy raised me on the river with straight, I just called with the 3rd nuts because he could have 55 or 66. Am I losing value here?
lmao


FWIW, i think he would've done the same thing if he didn't boat up on the river.

also, u should definitely be bluffing this guy on scary boards in the future lol
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10-04-2014 , 11:48 AM
I think you should just be calling here...he's not calling with worse to a raise IMO. A description on your table image and perceived villain would help this thread as well.
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