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Originally Posted by Burnit3x
I see you've opted for the "transcends explanation" option.
yes, but i guess people are here to learn, and since you asked, explaining it should be done on some level...
we have the 4th nuts. the nuts, 2nd nuts and 3rd nuts, while not outlandish to have, are just 16 combos (97), 16 combos (74) and 3 combos (88). 74 played in a raised pot is actually kind of outlandish, but that is V dependent.
the thing is, these are 35 combos of hands that they could have, but there are many other combos that make these specific hands less likely. you can add in multiple combos of the lower set, 2 pair hands, flush draws, straight draws, pair+straight draws, pair+flush draw, and overpairs
you could probably also eliminate some of the combos of hands that beat you because many Vs aren't going to play 74o in a raised pot (same with 97o)...
so by the time your done constructing a range of hands these players could have, it consists of a bunch of hands you are a head of and a few hands you are behind.
realistically speaking, with the exception of monotone flops and 3 card straight flops (like 876), there are few times we will get it all in with middle set and be behind, hence many people saying they are never folding on the board ITT