2/5

Villain is rly loose preflop, somewhat fit or fold post flop but is capable of spazzing out. He prob views me as a good ABC player on the tighter side. Doesn't really understand pot odds/pot sizes as I've seen him multiple times either do something like call $200 on the flop then fold for a $75 bet on a blank turn, or bet $200 on the turn then bet $75 on the river.

Villain just got back from a break and posted from the HJ. Effective stacks ~$600.

Folds to villain in HJ, he checks, I make it $30 from the CO with 78o, folds back to him, he calls.

Flop A74 all hearts (I have 8h)
He checks, I bet $45
After I bet and it's his action, he looks back at his cards (I assume this means he has a big card and he's checking to see if it's a heart... probably a king)
He raises me $80 on top.
I know he can't have AK/AQ since he didn't raise pre. I think his most likely holding here is a hand like Kh with a smaller card. Maybe KT, KJ, K9, K8 etc.
I reraise him $200 more on top (leaving me about $275 behind), planning to call a shove, or shove any non heart turn if he calls.

Spew or good play ?

Probably spew. Best case scenario we're flipping vs 2 overs and a flush draw. Also we shouldn't discount the possibility villian has an A with a heart (AT/A9) or 2 pair. Also by 3 betting his flop raise we're committing ourselves with a very marginal holding and ensuring he only continues with the top of his range. It's unlikely villian is folding anything he checkraised this flop with except his complete air in which case we'd be better off calling and letting him bluff turn.

TOO thin IMO. Not enuf info to suggest villain has air or weak enough draw to fold as i see it. IOW, we are gambling where crushed some, and fairly thin otherwise withe little chance of immediate profit.

You have low equity against his entire range and he isn't folding. Spew. If you are confident of your read it is much better to play a turn.

Do you guys like calling the flop and betting hard on a non heart turn ?

i think hero has some serious issues with overplaying hands. So to answer your question, no.

If you trust your read go for it. And you only get by trying. Obviously high variance but players who push thin edges make more money than nits. Finding those edges is difficult.

Location? If you are coming to a casino near me please pm date and time.

Uhm.... best case scenario you're flipping...? You can find a better spot bro, just fold...

I don't understand why you'd want to iso a spazzy villain who will never fold with a hand that will rarely hit anything better than 2nd pair. I limp and see a cheap flop.

I actually like preflop and the c-bet, but this is an easy fold. Coming over the top will make him jam so many hands that absolutely crush us at showdown, flatting makes him lead tons of turns including bricks, which we're still easily behind and lots of hearts which we're also then likely behind.

In your read you mention how he's fit or fold and can also spazz out, meaning he's generally not going to fold the marginal hands in his l/c c/r range that can make the flop 3b profitable. You simply don't have enough showdown value in spots where he jams or worse flats and ships the turn. You could maybe entertain the idea if you had like AJ no heart (a hand with boatloads more showdown value then 2nd pair no kicker) and it'd still be spew.


Lose the 25 bbs, go to the next hand and valuetown the donk.

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I don't see why this is so spewy though. Maybe the better play is just calling the flop and betting hard on a blank turn. His hand is so faceup when he double checks his cards though. He obv has a king or queen (more likely the king) and he's checking if it's a heart. It can't be AK so worst case scenario he has like Kh7x. I guess reraising is bad here kuz it lets him shove Kh7x or really any Kh but I think folding here kinda sucks knowing that he has Kh xx

I will apologize beforehand, but this hand is off the chart.

first, ur obviously playing a complete idiot. Only an idiot CR OOP and then checks a missed turn. I do not mean to be pissy at all here, but this hand is like 2 players each of whom have no idea of a valid plan, and worked out well since one player had to make the first bad move by checking the turn, allowing the 2nd player to make his bad move by shoving. Throw a card deck into a barrel of monkeys and see how the hand works out. Couldnt be any worse.

We should be c-betting mono flops at a lower frequency than normal. Check back this flop for pot control. You can go ahead and bet AxYh+ and total garbage. I find it hard to believe a B/3 bet can possibly be good against all but the spazziest of spazztards.

Because he likes money

Shoving over is fine, really, but what you should've done is checked back the flop.

Shoving over would be sometimes, but his 3bet I think Is generally crushed by most hands that flat.

I agree the 3bet was a mistake, but I don't think I like a fold either.

3bet is not a mistake; hero is obviously trying to get a fold from the villain. Kh does not have odds to draw vs hero's range as hero has a range of mostly made flushes, and top pair + fd, meaning that he has fewer outs and possible only flush outs. Hero is semi bluffing here so saying he's crushed when called doesn't say much.

Villain can have a made flush though in which case he may be dead.

did he have a propbet on who could play a hand the spewiest and still somehow win?