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05-07-2011 , 04:00 AM
Hero: Button, $800
Villian: Hijack, covers Hero

Hero: 910

Folds around to villain (we're playing 7 handed), he opens for $20. Hero calls. All others fold. Villain has been quiet lately, 40ish Asian guy who can get tilty and is normally far from snug. Our table has been quiet for the past couple hours, varying from 5-7 players. Hero doesn't show down many hands.

Flop: $45

78J

Villian checks, Hero bets $40, Villain calls.

9

Villain checks, Hero bets $60, villain raises to $130, Hero raises to $350, villain shoves.

My move?
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05-07-2011 , 05:16 AM
uhhh, call??
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05-07-2011 , 10:29 AM
ship it, what range are you putting him on? he raised pre. if he has Q10, nh, gg, reload.
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05-07-2011 , 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by droopy0021
Hero: Button, $800
Villian: Hijack, covers Hero

Hero: 910

Folds around to villain (we're playing 7 handed), he opens for $20. Hero calls. All others fold. Villain has been quiet lately, 40ish Asian guy who can get tilty and is normally far from snug. Our table has been quiet for the past couple hours, varying from 5-7 players. Hero doesn't show down many hands.

Flop: $45

78J

Villian checks, Hero bets $40, Villain calls.

9

Villain checks, Hero bets $60, villain raises to $130, Hero raises to $350, villain shoves.

My move?




This is like robbing the bank, racing down the road in the car shooting back at the cops the whole way, getting caught in a 4 way police car jam roadblock with about 100 rifles pointed and you and asking....

What's my move?




hint-Raising turn was the first wrong move. Now it's every man for himself.
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05-07-2011 , 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by AintNoLimit
This is like robbing the bank, racing down the road in the car shooting back at the cops the whole way, getting caught in a 4 way police car jam roadblock with about 100 rifles pointed and you and asking....

What's my move?




hint-Raising turn was the first wrong move. Now it's every man for himself.
So your thought is the small raise by villain should've given me all I need to know? Beware the min-raise is said by many. There are a lot of poor bet sizes in live games.

What are your thoughts on how you would play this hand? Seriously looking to learn if I butchered it.
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05-07-2011 , 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by droopy0021
So your thought is the small raise by villain should've given me all I need to know? Beware the min-raise is said by many. There are a lot of poor bet sizes in live games.

What are your thoughts on how you would play this hand? Seriously looking to learn if I butchered it.
when villain raises this turn, we have nothing more than a bluff catcher. Thats it. So let him bluff. This deep we cannot afford to open the door back up for him to slam it right down our throat for a massive bet. he can have the better straight, he can have the straight plus flush draw. He has us 6 ways for sunday and we raise?

hell, i would be dying on the turn, hating to call, and hating ANY big riverbet.

Honestly i would call turn bet and if villain bet pot on river i would really consider folding if i thought villain really had ability to think at all about betsizing. if just a fishy tourist guy then i would have to call----and ship it to his nuts over 50% the time.
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05-07-2011 , 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by droopy0021
What are your thoughts on how you would play this hand? Seriously looking to learn if I butchered it.
I'm pretty sure the biggest mistake was made pre. I don't see calling with the T9o to be a profitable play. Assuming it gets HU, CO should be cbetting most flops and we're going to be folding a ton. And we're not even suited, so we can't even hope for a backdoor FD. And it'd be even tougher to win if the blind/s call.

For calling to be a good play, we'd have to know for sure we could outplay villain post flop. He'd need to be a fit-or-fold predictable nit or at least someone adverse to aggression so that we know we could move him off the hand.

If you want to play the T9o, I would recommended 3betting instead. CO is "far from snug" so his CO raising range should be even wider and he should hate playing a big pot OOP. I think 3betting would win you the pot far more often than not.
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05-07-2011 , 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkeyDonk
I'm pretty sure the biggest mistake was made pre. I don't see calling with the T9o to be a profitable play. Assuming it gets HU, CO should be cbetting most flops and we're going to be folding a ton. And we're not even suited, so we can't even hope for a backdoor FD. And it'd be even tougher to win if the blind/s call.

For calling to be a good play, we'd have to know for sure we could outplay villain post flop. He'd need to be a fit-or-fold predictable nit or at least someone adverse to aggression so that we know we could move him off the hand.

If you want to play the T9o, I would recommended 3betting instead. CO is "far from snug" so his CO raising range should be even wider and he should hate playing a big pot OOP. I think 3betting would win you the pot far more often than not.


Ha, my bad. I was lazy and didnt want to type all this. But +1 word for word.
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05-07-2011 , 10:52 PM
if ur 3 betting the turn its to 3 bet/call not 3 bet/fold. 3 bet folding is awful here where theres a split 99% of the time if it goes in. i like calling the raise on the turn and letting him bet the river.
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05-07-2011 , 11:39 PM
Nice bluff OTT.
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