200NL Top & Bottom on BB in limped pot
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 502
Typical 1/2 live game. was sitting at a feeder table but just got moved to the main game. villain is incredibly loose-passive fish. i had seen him betting tiny with relatively big hands (roughly 10-20% of the pot) and fail to get max value.
Effective stack: 230
7way limped pot.
Hero (BB): J4dd
Flop: J54r
($14) SB checks, Hero bets 15, utg1 calls 15, folds, .. folds, Villain (late position) raises 30 to 45, folds,
action back to me...
Hero: 3bet 85 more to 130. utg1 folds. Villain thinks and calls.
($289) Turn: 6 completing rambo
Hero: bet 100 all-in.
Villain: time banks, calls.
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Villain shows 55 for set of 5s. FML.
Did I play this wrong? It wasn't an auto b3b spot given villains tendencies. but i did it anyway.
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 3,944
Don't 3-bet flop against a passive opponent. He is almost never doing this just top pair. Just call raise then call turn and river.
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 502
i honestly thought 45 was his probable holding. when he was time banking the turn, i thought he had just a naked jack, so i was thinking "please call please call please call". finally he calls and i think im about to get paid only to find villain roll over the flop second nuts. i reasonably thought, given by 3bet sizing, that all sets would 4bet all-in given i had only 100 behind for turn shove. but of course he just calls. and so should have i. thanks.
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,628
As said above you can't really expect to get paid off by TP in this hand OTF so I'd probably flat the flop raise then c/r all in OTT for value.
To be clear you aren't getting away from this hand no matter what, but 3 betting the flop just folds out a lot of hands you could extract value from.