Hero JUST sat down and this is his second hand.

When I walked up to the table, Villain was raking in a 1k+ pot. Didn't see any hands or the board tho. A grinder was reloading, so I'm assuming he stacked him.

Villain - Covers is an old white man. Probably around late 60's early 70's. Never seen him before.

$500 Effective stacks.

V limps UTG+1, folds to hero in the HJ who makes it 25 with AK, BTN calls, and V calls.

Flop $80
A44

Villain grabs a stack of chips and bets $100, Hero is confused as hell.

Call for sure. He could be doing this with worse aces. He would usually check his 4x hands and they're probably not even in his utg l/c range.

If he bombs the turn, I'm letting it go. If he checks, check it back and make a small vbet on the river.

I like that line. I'm not willing to go broke in this situation against an unknown opponent but hand is too good to give up either. I would be very wary if another diamond hits.

So we're calling and basically hoping he shuts down? Doesn't seem like a great play, nor does it seem like he's going to slow down after he over bets on the flop..?

Raise to $240 and get it in

So just fold?

Call

So far villains image, which by this point you can only base on his age, falls under old guy, slightly bad, typical casino reg. Yes, this is completely stereotyping, but it is what helps us in these spots.

Against an unknown villain with that image I am not willing to give TPTK up just like this. How likely is he to show up with a 4 here in comparison tho weaker Aces and Flush draws.

I am for sure calling this down and reevaluating any Flush card and villains action.

ding ding ding. He has much more Ax and flush draws in his UTG limp/call range than 4s. If he has it this time good for him, but raise gii is deffo best options not even close 100bb deep

Raise/fold for information maybe? I don't see him b/3b with worse aces like EVER.

+1

V can have any A, any draw. A 4 should be unlikely but can't rule out 54s, 43s, A4s, esp bc he just won a hand and could be feeling like he's on a heater. But, that said, you should be crushing his range here and AK is too strong to fold to one bet on this board.
I also don't like ceding aggression to his donk bet, hence the raise.

I'm willing to GII here and if he has a four, I'm reloading my stack, and buying him a drink so he stays at the table until he goes broke.

Asked a few buddies of mine, and is anyone opposed to just folding?
If V bombs turn, what's our plan? If the flush comes and villain bombs again, what's our plan? If a K comes on the turn, what's our plan? If another heart comes, and villain pots again, what's our plan? We're literally playing in the dark.

call flop 100%. raising gets worse to fold alot. if he bombs flush turn...then easy fold. if he bombs blank turn....prob fold. people slow down on turn with weak hands. bet blank turn if he chevks

I mean AK here is basically the nuts...and what kind of old man V overbets the flop with a 4? Getting it in for 100bb seems pretty nice. I would expect to see V show up here with AK/AQ like 90% of the time. He could also just have a pair and want to end the hand. Folding seems pretty absurd.

I'm the old man in the OP and had 45cc and stacked Hero.

Just kidding.

I wouldn't. I doubt he's blasting into two players with a flush draw on an Ace hi flop.

Old man bombing an Ace hi, two tone flop is the poster child for "I don't want anybody hitting their draw!!"

V likely has Ax that he didn't feel comfortable raising before the flop, so like A8s+, ATo+, maybe A2s-A5s. It's possible he has 4x, but his limp was in EP, so those combos look like 2 combos of A4s, 2 combos of 54s and not much else. I guess you can sprinkle in 64s as well, but that's only 2 more combos. If he has more than that, just take a note and adjust.

I think raising to get it in is best here, followed by calling and getting it in on the turn.

I'm raising here for sure. Most likely if he had a 4 he would've checked to trap and I doubt he's betting out his draw.

i also think call flop. usually, after winning big pots players are content to sit back for a little while and relax. i cannot possibly see a 4 in his l/c range ever pre so it leads me to believe weaker ace or maybe mid pockets but never, ever can i see a hand in this case that has you beat so i might c/c all the way. Or, if you had some sort of info that could lead you to believe he might call a spaz shove then that line seems optimal but in this case you dont so call. and id be very comfortable with it.

Based on the description, the villain has a good, but not a nutted hand. We can eliminate FH and quads. Old guys don't overbet the flop on a FD, especially since he doesn't have the ace. A read on the guy that was reloading would be good. Was he pissed off at the villain, pissed off at himself or just calmly reloading?

Raising just narrows his range to hands that beat you. I'd call and closely check the bet sizing on the turn. It is likely he isn't thinking about your stack size but only his. If he bets $200 on the turn, I'd lean towards he has the 4 because he's getting close to pot commitment with a $1000 stack. If he checks or bets $150 or less, I'm going to call him down.

I agree with not folding.

But to answer the above: One afraid of the flush draw.

I think this is 4x a ton but readless I'm not folding. I'm calling and folding to a turn bet. Ax bets smaller or x/c because the old guys always put you on AK.

As an aside, anybody like the idea of calling and jamming a diamond turn?

Call the flop, call the turn, call the river. If her turns over a 4, good for him. Did you really sit down to fold in this spot? The fact that he took this line on this board proves he is a dummy. Never raise flop, just let him spew with his diamond draw or ****ty ace. I suppose if a diamond turns and he fires big again you can consider folding but that's it. Otherwise, let him bet into you again and ship.

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Overbets on the flop are never the nuts. V has a weak suited ace here like 90% of the time. He bets large here because he doesn't want to play the hand OOP where he has to c/c 3 streets. he is hoping hero has 88's-KK and will simply go away.

This is the easiest call I've ever seen. if we raise we are blowing V off of his hand. We want to be able to set up a value bet when it gets checked down to the river and V thinks we are bluffing with a missed flush draw or trying to get thin value from QQ or KK.

The only way I am folding in this spot is if a diamond hits the turn. There is no way this kind of V would bet into a preflop aggressor when the board shows a flush, an ace, and a paired board without having one pair crushed.

Call flop....re-evaluate turn.

Call/call/call.

Really a trivial hand for 100bb with no reads.